Some things to remember about Mayweather come fight night

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by BigReg, Apr 17, 2012.


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  1. icebergisonfire

    icebergisonfire Floyd F*ckin Mayweather! Full Member

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    Because Floyd is fanatical about his health, doesn't balloon up in weight, works out like crazy. Basically, he stays in shape. To my recollection, Oscar did not
     
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  2. compukiller

    compukiller Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cotto will be beaten down and stopped on May 5th, of this I have no doubt.
     
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  3. Prince.

    Prince. 24/7 365 Full Member

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    Doug Fisher also predicted Judah would beat Khan.
     
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  4. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    You learn something new everyday.


    You could be right. However, how many times have you heard about boxers getting old overnight? It's very easy to point out some of these factors after the fact. Everyone is a genius in hindsight.

    Cotto is 31. The age difference between Cotto and Mayweather is about the same as the difference between Mayweather and Hoya. How many people were saying that they were about the same age? You talk about ring wars, but when is the last time Cotto's been in one? In the last 3 years he's taken little punishment and hasn't fought all that often. These guys aren't porcelain eggs that crack at the slightest touch. Top guys are only fighting once or twice a year now. It gives them plenty of time to recover. Just to give you some perspective, Salido is the same age as Cotto, and has taken a lot more punishment. Many would argue that he's at the top of his game. I'm not sure Cotto is at the top of his game, but his in ring performances indicate he has plenty left in the tank.


    Again, you might be right. Maybe Mayweather is a super athlete, that's supremely decidcated, and well conditioned. Maybe his talent and work ethic perserve him more than other fighters, and maybe he's less affected by layoffs. Again, we are all geniuses in hindsight. I don't see the problem in introducing some foresight.


    Hopkins has fought two catchweight fights at 170. Is he not a "real" LHW. Those 3 fights Cotto have had at JMW, seemed like real fights to me. That is a real JMW belt around his waist, and there are plenty of real rankings that really have him ranked number 1 at JMW.


    Look, I'm not like you. I don't have the ability to see into the future. I'm also not there looking at Mayweather train everyday, and I can't read his mind. The factors I mentioned have generally affected every athlete on the planet. No athlete will tell you that being their mid 30's, or taking long layoffs, or facing outside distractions are negilible influences on their performance.
     
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  5. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    the 2008 version of cotto would never be stopped by floyd. floyd has a bigger chance now since cotto has been through lots of wars and his resistance is not the same as before.
     
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  6. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

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    You can say the same thing about Cotto towards Floyd...Cotto didn't fight him when he was in his prime. He waited for Floyd to be 35 years old.
     
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  7. Hands of Iron

    Hands of Iron #MSE Full Member

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    Yet somehow this seems to hurt him when it comes to getting credit for a win. Has to be frustrating for people that Mayweather can accumulate so much wealth and success without ever slipping up, underestimating anyone, coming in out of shape and stay so on top of his game, beating top rated world contenders and champs every time out. We already know what it is.

    Great post, Reg. :deal
     
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  8. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    A lot. But we won't be saying that about Floyd.

    Age ain't nuttin' but a number. I much prefer to look at how much their fighting in the ring has taken the toll on them...

    Just because he hasn't been in one recently, it doesn't mean that the wars beforehand haven't had their effect on him. There's a reason why he's been kept out of harm's way since 2009.

    Yes. He has enough in the tank. But Mayweather has so much more. That's my point.

    Oh come on. Surely you can see the difference between the two? Hopkins had those 170 fights against smaller fighters coming up in weight. The smaller fighters were the ones who would have requested the catchweights.

    That's not what happened with Cotto. Despite being this natural JMW like you claim he is, he was the one trying to get the fight to happen at 150 against a man who wanted it at 154.

    I'm not looking into the future. I'm looking at past trends involving Floyd, and have come to the conclusion that those things you're trying to sell, are very unlikely to happen. And come May 5th, we will find out.
     
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  9. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    lol :lol:


    some cotto and floyd quotes back in 2008

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    also from another boxing site, ellerbe was quoted with this,
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  10. Heavy Handed

    Heavy Handed I keep planets in orbit Full Member

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    If Floyd was fanatical about his health, he'd be a vegetarian like Hopkins. Floyd eats junk food because he says he can. While his body may metabolize the junk food quickly, eating McDonald's on the regular will eventually take it's toll. Not saying that it would happen over night, just that eating junk food is not healthy for anybody.
     
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  11. Capitan

    Capitan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes, but you're making them very nervous!
     
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  12. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

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    Very nice. Doesn't matter as to the point however.:deal So why did Cotto duck Floyd in Floyd's prime? Why did he wait for him to be 35? :huh

    Oh and Cotto was with Top Rank in 07 08...He wouldn't put any of his fighters in with Floyd in case you haven't noticed.

    Your my *****:rofl
     
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  13. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Somehow Cotto has become the shopworn, old fighter, who can barely walk and chew gum at the time. This is the perception despite being only 31, excelling in his recent fights, and fighting at a championship level. We hear all the time, how going up even 1 weight class is so detremental, and outside distractions hurt a fighter, and how guys in their mid 30's and up are so old, and how being inactive is such a disadvantage. For some reason though, all these factors are being ignored here and the younger, bigger, more active, reigning champion is being labeled as the past it fighter.
     
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  14. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    you're my *****. you are the same guy that was amazed that floyd, an elite, world-class athlete can run a 6:22/mile when even ordinary guys can do that.

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  15. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

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    Look at this *****...he can't answer the question. I already explained that *******.

    This is why you get no respect from other posters. Youz a ***** that don't post correct ****. You just run your mouth and you never respond to ANYTHING related to the posters post.

    So how come Cotto waited for Floyd to be 35 *****?:think How come he didn't fight him in his prime:think

    Your posts don't show anything or prove any points *****. Your my ***** to the fullest. You and your sister.
     
    catnthehat, Apr 17, 2012
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