Someone close to the Mayweathers stated from the begining this fight would not happen

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  1. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    Philla we've debated this 4343434 times man...I see ur argument but I just don't agree with it at all..I mean i guess it comes down to which argument you believe in...I THINK FLOYD THINK MANNY ON SOMETHING THUS THE REASONS FOR THE BLOOD TESTS...NSAC CAN SAY WHAT THEY WANT BUT FACT IS THAT MOSLEY GOT AROUND THEIR TESTS AND WE DONT KNOW WHAT OTHER FIGHTERS ARE...
     
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  2. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    ps check out my thread on the top 10 ww
     
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  3. JasonChaos27

    JasonChaos27 Active Member Full Member

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    This is true as well, however, Mosley showed up on a Balco list when they were busted. All mayweather is going on is that Pac moved up in weight and is still knocking people out. In otherwords, nothing. Its sad, mayweathers got all the skill in the world, he easily could have become the best fighter ever, I personally think he would have easily outpointed Pac. After the Marquez fight, I didnt even want Mayweather to fight Pac, I wanted him to fight Mosley. I figured fighting Pac would be anothe rmismatch A LA Marquez. But after seeing Pac fight Cotto, he can hang with the big guys.

    I dont know what Mayweather is scared of, he puts such an importance on being undefeated I think he's convinced himself if he loses he's worth nothing or some ****. Maybe losing or being in a fairly competitive fight would give him some balls or heart. Who knows.
     
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  4. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    u ever thought maybe floyd jr believes pac is on some ****..i mean he didn't take his team out the situation, hire gbp to rep him, demand from day 1 that they wanted the testing like this, plus going through the mediation to duck the fight...FANS USED A NUMBER OF NEGOTIATION REASONS...HE'LL DUCK HIM USING THE MONEY, THE GLOVE SIZE, THE WEIGHT, THE DATE, THE PENALTY FOR BEING OVERWEIGHT, ETC...THIS WAS THE ONE THING FLOYD REALLY HAD PROBLEMS WITH SO IT IS AUTOMATICALLY 'HIS FAULT"...IT WAS DECIDED BEFORE THESE NEGOTIATIONS STARTED THAT FLOYD WOULD DUCK HIM REGARDLESS SO ITS CLEAR THIS WAS THE REASON THAT PEOPLE COULD GIVE

    Furthermore the only one that got caught doing any lying was pacquiaos team when they made "false allegations"...floyd came out and openly said what he wanted to make the fight happen...14 days...they wanted 24 days..if u have nothing to hide than take the test...

    Freddie roach "give us a 5 day window"

    arum blasts 14 day proposal than says it was offered THAN COMES BACK TO SAY IT WAS IN FACT OFFERED...hmmmmMM, NOW WHO IS LYING AND NOT TO TRUST? THE MEDIATOR DIDN'T SAY FLOYD MADE ANY FALSE ALLEGATIONS..INFACT THE MEDIATOR SAID BOTH PARTIES PARTICIPATED IN GOOD FAITH...way too much working against manny for me to believe he isn't hiding something...dont even know if its drugs but whatever the reason is he should just man up and test...i get random drug tests at work and i can be subject to a blood test as well...i got **** to hide...only way i would not test if i knew i was dirty or going to be dirty....i would literally quit my job so my career wouldn't be over cuz i knew i was dirty...than again..im not so i can just take the test..manny obviously can't
     
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  5. TRUS2N1

    TRUS2N1 New Member Full Member

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    I usually never post anything around here, but are you telling him that you make 20k worth of overtime. I'm not here to discredit you but I know how much a GS-11 makes. I work w/ three other GS-11's here in the bay area w/ one of them all the way up to step 5 and none of them makes that much w/ overtime. And we have one of the highest cost of living in the country. Your 26 yrs old, so I know you're no higher than step 3. I guess my point is, why you lying about your pay homie? Why you even telling people around here how much you get paid?
     
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  6. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    see what i mean..i graduated class 613 btw arteisha new mexico......i get 25 percent law enforcement pay on top of my regualr pay..u figure it...not lying about my pay it is what it is...i could care less wether u believe it or not..these guys all up on my business though and dont wanna talk about boxing so i figured i would let them know what i do
     
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  7. JasonChaos27

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    I agree completely. Like I said, their arguments for not taking the tests were weak and caused a lot of suspicion in and of itself. I see both point of views. I personally dont know why Pac didnt just take the stupid tests and get it over with. I would just to make the 40 million and give the fans the fight they want.

    If Floyd thinks he's on something and doesnt want to fight him without Pac agreeing to the drug testing terms Floyd wants, he's perfectly in his right to not fight him.

    The point of it all is though, there is no proof that pac is or ever was on anything at all. He didnt show up on any lists, he never failed a test...theres nothing. In fact, none of this was ever brought up until the Mayweathers said anything about it. So it can only be considered heresay.

    By Pac even agreeing to do any testing not required by the NSAC, for example, the 3 tests he said he would do, then the 24 day stipulation, unlimited urine tests...he was essentially bending over backwards to accomodate Floyd. He never had to agree to take any test at all! He was actually comprimising. When Floyd tossed out 14 days he was just playing games. If he was thats tringent on the drug testing, he wouldnt have budged off of random testing up until the fight.

    Im curious as to what would have happened if Pac agreed to the 14 day testing. Mayweather already refused the Dallas location. He got his name on top billing. Floyd nuthuggers like to point out 10oz gloves, but thats nothing at all.

    Im not a ******* by any stretch of the imagination and I think Floyd is the most talented fighter, at th every least of this generation, I gotta lean more towards Floyd looking for a way out of this fight.

    Floyd nuthuggers love to fall for Floyds little PR trick. But keep in mind like I said, Pac didnt have to agree to any testing not required by the NSAC. However, by doing so, he was comprimising to take tests for something there has never been any proof of him doing.
     
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  8. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    NOT THAT I HAVE **** TO PROVE TO YOU BUT HERE YOU GO CUZ I GOT NOTHING TO HIDE... IM AN 11 STEP 2 BTW:deal

    http://www.opm.gov/oca/09tables/html/sf_leo.asp
     
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  9. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    nice post...but because i like floyd don't mean im a "nuthugger" as u put it..he is my favorite fighter but ill admit when he in the wrong as i would any fighter...on this though i just can't see how you woudl accept the nsac tests when other fighters have passed them as well...mark mcguire anyone
     
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  10. kukoy

    kukoy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    idk much about what they make, but I thought the 95k he gave was average (or even below average w/ ot) and I believe him.
     
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  11. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    I made 33,500 in ot this year...sorry didnt mean to come off like a dick either... We just got an increase to a Gs12 as well..mine hasn't kicked in but it will soon

    **** that put me over 100!
     
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  12. JasonChaos27

    JasonChaos27 Active Member Full Member

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    Ha, I wasnt calling you a nuthugger, I was refering to other posters on this site. I apologize, I should have clarified. That did sound like I was calling you one.

    The reason i can accept it is because its the same standard all fighters are held to. If they started doing Olympic style testing for everyone, absolutely. I even think thats a good idea. But you cant single out one person to start it with, going on no proof whatsoever other than heresay.
     
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  13. LastQuark

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  14. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    Ricky Hatton in England? Hatton is stated that he will begin training soon and that his next fight will be at WW. Hatton has stated many times that he would love 'another crack at that Mayweather'. I think it possible that Hatton is at least trying to get on Floyds radar now the Pac fight is off.


    There are also the financial benefits of keeping it in the Goldenboy family, Hatton's Ppv and live draw - especially when marketed as his 'good-bye' fight.

    Just throwing it out there - there are millions of reasons this fight could happen - all reasons Floyd loves.
     
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  15. cloud_cyc

    cloud_cyc p4p demon Full Member

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    funny how the same could be said to the guy who was the "first to accuse" pac of using illegal substances. yet you jumped in to the badwaggon like it was the absolute truth. :thumbsup
     
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