Someone explain this. There are hundreds of Eastern European boxers fighting 140-175

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it's true you don't see a lot of Russians or Ukrainians in boxing lower then 147 because it's difficult to find people in that region who are that small.
Even some of the best lighter weight fighters from former USSR like GGG or Tzsu are part Korean.

 

You obviously haven't seen Herbzg's rankings

 

Tis True.

 

You're assuming that there was something like a level playing field when there wasn't. By the early 90s, America had about 100 years of pro boxing tradition, with the associated boxing "infrastructure" - trainers, gyms, promoters, etc. Eastern Europe had no pro boxing tradition, all this had to be created where it didn't exist before. Furthermore, there was no money in boxing in Eastern Europe, you couldn't make any money in it. And boxing can't thrive without money. If there's no money, people are not going into boxing. Only in the last few years, in Russia, have boxers been able to make any decent money.

 

Yeah that's why us bias Americans at this time have 7 of the top 10 P4P slots filled by foreigners according to Ring, because we all think only Americans are any good :-(

 

Ridiculous argument.

Eastern Europeans AT the highest level of boxing and NOT HWs

Marco Huck
Denis Ledbedev
Krystov Wlodarczyk
Mateus Masternak
Alexander Alexeev
Dimitroy Kutscher

6/11 of the top CWs in the world are from the former soviet union.

Beibuyt Shumenov
Andre Fonfara
Edward Gutneckt
Denis Grachev
Karo Murat
David Kosteki
Ishmael Sillayk
7/20 LHWs are from the former soviet union.

Athur Abraham
Lucian Bute
Oosthuzien
Karoly Balzay
Nickolai Sjeklocai

5/25 top SMWs are of former soviet union blood.

Golovkin
Sturm
Pirog
Khurtszidze
Proska


5/20 of the top MWs are of former Soviet bloodlines.


I aint going down to the smaller classes since white folks don't make as many mutant mini men.:think

 

hahaha. Oosthuizen from soviet union blood??? His ancestry is Dutch...about how many others are you lying?

 

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Skittlez = Loser

 

This argument is stupid, the thread starter can't accept that eastern euro fighters could only be dominant in the highest two weight classes, but can accept that Asian boxers can only be dominant in he lowest classes, mexicans only in lmw and below.
The thread starter is basically saying if the eastern euros were really good they would dominate at every weight. But why can't the same be said for other nations and groups? If the americans and mexicans were really good why don't they dominate at heavyweight too?

 

It takes time for the eastern euros to develop a domestic scene in order to make the move successfully to professional, pro trainers gyms promoters etc, but out of the few that did make the move in the 90s some were successful, valuev, golota, maskaev, etc and these weren't the best eastern euro amateurs and yet they were still successful.
The 90s, a time still largely dominated by USA along with lewis, could have looked very different had the best EEs turned pro or turned pro earlier,
Like if Vitali had turned pro earlier, or if the likes of Ulli Kaden, Miroshnichenko (if he had turned pro earlier), or Lezin.

 

the heavyweight division in america hasn't been deep in years. when it was, there was little to no EE influence. case in point, the fall of the iron curtain and it's more than a decade long aftermath, where there literally did not exist one dominant eastern european heavyweight, including the klitschkos. at the upper most level, much of this had to do with lennox lewis, a truly great fighter, but below him, and even much to his own dismay on multiple occasions, who dominated? american fighters.

Kostya Tszyu= one of three great EE fighters that exist, period.

i'm not going to answer the first half of your last question, because it has the audacity to suppose inadvertently that the american hw division is just as deep as it has always been, which is utterly preposterous.atsch

instead of answering your very last question, i'll say this, would you simply highlight "individual attributes":blood as reason for EE dominance, if fighters from that area absolutely dominated boxing history? I think not. you may you would, but I absolutely believe that's bull****.