Someone want to explain to me just how Kostya Tszyu would've beaten DLH?

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  1. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  2. Steel Kelly

    Steel Kelly Active Member Full Member

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    DLH has avoided Tszyu his whole career since their amateur days, if DLH was a shoe in against Tszyu then why did he hightail it out of the 140lb division and never fight him? Now DLH has fought everyone he thought he could beat, Trinidad was a shocking decision and he beat Mosley in the second fight. DLH has never ducked anyone except Tszyu! I'll tell you how Tszyu would have beaten DLH, Tszyu had incredible accuracy and power with his punches and he had fast hands and who said he could not handle speed? Ask Judah and Mitchell about speed, Tszyu KTFO and ask Vernon Forrest about Tszyu who destroyed him in the amatuers. Had Tszyu fought DLH the Golden Boy's career would have taken a different path and he knows it. Granted he lost to Phillips in 97 and DLH was happy about that, Tszyu was sick prior to that fight and went into the ring at 137lb due to gastro sickness. DLH went upto Welter and fought Whitaker past his best and Camacho way past his best, oh yeah he avoided Tszyu allright...like the plague.
     
  3. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Wrong he ducked Forrest and Winky.

    Amatuers mean nothing when talking about pro fights and careers.


    And Phillips was a crackhead which is worse?
     
  4. Drexl

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    Yeah... it's self explanatory now that the Thread Title has been changed. :yep

    It used to say

    ..explain to me just how you KNOW Kostya Tszyu would've beaten DLH?
     
  5. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    ooooh....To say Defensively DLH is "Poor" would be way off! If Floyd had trouble finding DLH then his defense must not be too bad...in fact judging by the difficulty that Money May had landing on DLH I'd say his Defense is very solid. On the inside and outside Oscar is superior to KT. KT has his best chance fighting DLH form the outside. That gives him the chance to guage his distance and try to time the much fast DLH. Of course KT has a chance...His power is ****ing nuts, but the chances of him landing on DLH with that straight right are very low percentages. I think it would be an exciting fight but pretty much one sided. with KT it's exciting b/c there is always a chance at a KO from his hands. I just know the skill level between the two are vast and DLH would have an easy time figuring KT out...avoiding his power right would be his main focus.
     
  6. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol: Look...KT is a great fighter, but not on level with DLH. To say DLH avoided ONLY KT is laughable b/c why would he have avoided someone like KT when he took on guys like Tito, Whitaker (even past his prime was more of a threat than KT), Bhops, Vargas's ect.ect. ect. The list could go on and on.

    Speed would be a factor for KT but not the main factor. You have to fight an intelligent fight against KT b/c he is so calm and composed when he fights. That's why he is so accurate. Zab could have beaten KT without much trouble IF he faught an educated fight. He could have eaily outboxed KT but decided to try and get cute and leave his hands down!:patsch That is one thing you CAN'T DO AGAINST KT! His power will take your head off. I don't even want to talk about Shramba. He should have beaten Mitchell given that Mitchell is a B+ level fighter throughout his career. Maybe at best an A-. KT is a bonifide ELITE fighter like DLH.. But DLH is a better boxer and that would be the difference.
     
  7. emanuel_augustus

    emanuel_augustus Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Excellent post, although I think ODLH would operate more on the outside with KT still certainly able to land because of you what you said early about Tsyzu's ability for precise timing and his ring patience.
     
  8. RAMPAGE0017

    RAMPAGE0017 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Only problem with this logic is the matter of DLH's P4P iron chin. DLH's taken punches on the button by bigger and stronger fighters than KT.
     
  9. RAMPAGE0017

    RAMPAGE0017 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Again, DLH supposedly ducking KT means KT automatically would've won?:huh
     
  10. Steel Kelly

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    Come on now, Whitaker was never going to Knock DLH out and if DLH lost to Whitaker by decision and he very nearly did then nothing would have changed in DLH's career.
    Tszyu was there for the taking and DLH thought it to dangerous a task.
    I said in my post that DLH never ducked anyone and credit to him for that and i like him but he avoided Tszyu because Tszyu had the arsenal to knock him out and at that time in DLH"s career that would have been disastrous. Again getting back to the original thread Tszyu's power, exceptional timing, hand speed and unorthodox movements would have given DLH fits back in 1997/8. DLH then fights houshold names like Kamau, Rivera, Charpentier and well past their best Camacho and Chavez, when you look at DLH's career he took a nice easy path in 1997 and 1998 and Tszyu was not going to spoil the master plan !
     
  11. Steel Kelly

    Steel Kelly Active Member Full Member

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    No it doesn't mean that at all, it means DLH took an easier path to superstardom and Tszyu was to bigger a risk. DLH was an exceptional fighter back then but the thread is how could Kostya beat him, power, timing, hand speed, unorthodox movement, experience, power. It would have been a great fight and one that should have happened.
     
  12. Steel Kelly

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    I think you are being a bit tough on Sharmba, up until he fought Tszyu he had lost only 3 times in some 50 fights and had not lost for 7 years, interseting that Judah never fought him.
     
  13. Steel Kelly

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    Amateurs mean nothing when talking about pro fights and careers!
    Ok, let's not refer to De La Hoya as THE GOLDEN BOY anymore
    as that name has no significance at all.!
     
  14. Steel Kelly

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    I am assuming that this match up would have been at 140lb?
    KT punched like a Middleweight at 140lb.
     
  15. emanuel_augustus

    emanuel_augustus Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not at 140 pounds, he didn't. No one hit ODLH the way Kostya would have at that weight. Not saying that ODLH couldn't have taken his punch, but Tszyu punched like a mule at 140.