Something I Realized About Manny Pacquiao Fights Since 2012 (KTFO6)...

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  1. There Will Be Blood

    There Will Be Blood #TheMedicalTeam #750 banned Full Member

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    I've realized that every fight since Manny walked into the roided nuclear right hand of Roidquez, I'm watching to see HOW MUCH MANNY HAS LEFT versus the expectation that Manny will dominate his opponent. Pre-KFTO6 Manny would have destroyed Floyd (any version from ODLH to Roidquez IV) and he was on his way to stopping Roidquez.

    It's very, very sad. :crybaby2:
     
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  2. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Let it go no version of Pac beats PBF. PBF is a horrible styles match up for Pac and would always be able to control the distance and dictate the range of this fight that's the main reason why PBF beats him, because Pac has no answer for it.:deal:
     
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  3. There Will Be Blood

    There Will Be Blood #TheMedicalTeam #750 banned Full Member

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    Nah. Prime Manny was a balls-to-the-wall, go-for-the-jugular, kill-or-be-killed wrecking machine who possessed a killer instinct and didn't hesitate (which got him iced by Roidquez, but Floyd ain't got that type of power).
     
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  4. cslb

    cslb Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That right hand of Marquez definitely chastened Pac and made him more careful. However, the reckless Pac before the right hand of God was applied to his face would probably have been stopped by Mayweather. Pac became a better defensive fighter after being sent into the Twilight Zone by Marquez.
     
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  5. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    One of the more underrated parts about Pac's career is that he still had enough to beat Tim Bradley twice as clearly as he did after that knockout loss.
     
  6. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    The consensus is that prime for prime, it would've been a 50:50 fight. Manny would've taken a powderpuff girly shot from Mayweather to land 10 in his prime.

    Having scored the MayPac fight 116-112, I envision at least 2 rounds that a prime Manny would win.
     
  7. Pimp C

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    LMFAO PBF would be prime to in your scenario. A prime Pac couldn't even beat JMM clearly but yet you think that he beats an even better master boxer in his prime PBF? Wishful thinking at its best. PBF would have controlled the range and dictated the distance this fight was fought at that would always be the case. He would have lowered Pac's workrate with lead right hands, movement and clean counters making him weary. He would have beat Pac to the punch from the outside and tagged him all night as he tried to come in. Pac's inability to cut the ring of would hurt him as well as he would have always just followed PBF around getting picked off and out maneuvered for his trouble. If PBF elected to simply stay on the outside and fight off his back foot there would be literally nothing Pac could do to offset it he would end up getting a boxing lesson here.:deal: It would have been worse back then for Pac than it was on May 2nd 2015, because that version of Pac was more flawed and reckless.
     
  8. drenlou

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    Pac arguably lost 4x to JMM all at his peak in the sport.
     
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  9. cslb

    cslb Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What these Pac "fans" fail to grasp is that Mayweather was always quick and skilled enough to keep Pac in front of him, has similar or better hand speed, is much longer than Pac and is smart enough to fight Pac at the distance that he wanted. Moreover, it took Marquez four fights to land that right hand on Pac. I wager Mayweather could do it in one fight. When Mayweather sits down on his punches, I doubt Marquez hits any harder.
     
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  10. drenlou

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    Yep. There's a reason Pac never fought slick fighters on his way up.
     
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  11. There Will Be Blood

    There Will Be Blood #TheMedicalTeam #750 banned Full Member

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    Pac was robbed in the first fight due to an incompetent judge's inability to do simple math. Pac rightfully won the second fight w/ the knockdown being the key difference. I and II were tremendously close fights.

    III was a close fight w/ Pac edging it. Pac broke Marquez's face in IV and his eagerness to land one more shot got him iced. III and IV featured a bulked up, hulked up Roidquez.
     
  12. cslb

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    and won't fight Crawford now.
     
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    And yet, a juiced up Mayweather couldn't do much but throw pitter patter jabs from the outside to an old, shot, injured Pac. The handful of times Floyd initiated action, he was punished w/ left hand counters. There are numerous videos online of Floyd basically demonstrating fear of Pac. It took a brutal KO plus 3 more years for Floyd to finally think it was safe.
     
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    bud ducked him asking for mega money
     
  15. There Will Be Blood

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    And yet he fought a prime Bradley, a certified slickster, and won all three times.