Something I Realized About Manny Pacquiao Fights Since 2012 (KTFO6)...

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  1. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yea common sense. And i mean you have to be common as **** to not understand that high workrate always gave Floyd problems. Every fighter that gave Floyd problems did so with workrate and initiating the action. And every fight up to the Margarito fight showed a relentless non-stop violent Pacman.

    Even when Floyd finally decided to make the fight happen 5 years too late and after Pac wiping out the welterweight division and getting ktfo, Pac still clearly won 4 rounds. No more, no less unless you just drink haterade for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Now to me there's no way i don't see a fresher Pac winning a few more rounds and dishing out some major hurt.

    And no the extra time didn't affect both fighters the same. Pac has almost 70 fights, been in countless wars , and was recently ktfo, iced, lights out. No way both fighters were close to the same removed from their prime, or the time frame they should have met.

    People bring up Jmm great close fights as an indicator as to what Floyd would do. Gtfoh, Floyd never had that kind of power, or grit that Jmm has. And the shoe on the other foot what about the lesser fighters that gave Floyd problems? Castillo, Judah,Maidana, old ass Oscar, Hatton, why no mention of them?
     
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  2. RingKing75

    RingKing75 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Considering Floyd beat a past prime injured version of Manny and still had to go the distance and at no time did he appear to hurt manny or even have him in any kind of trouble i doubt Floyd has an easy time with Pac `10. Thats just absurd to believe.
     
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  3. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Pac's going to have a shocked look when he accidentally KO's Khan "But I'm a holy man, I made a promise not to KO my opponent, GOD, please forgive me!" :lol:
     
  4. pincai

    pincai The Indonesian Thin Man Full Member

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    Something I realise after watching that fights is that, anybody can be knocked out.
    It doesn't take a big punch from a puncher.
    And yes, pac was tentative after eating a straight right from Floyd early in the fight. But I don't buy the notion that pac will do any better if the KTFO6 never happen. In 2015 pac has long lost his hunger for battle, basically his opponent has to take it to him hard for him to respond. Floyd will still win.
    In 2011 however, it's will be a closer fight, nobody knows. Floyd might still win as he usually does after he figure out his opponent. I don't think Floyd will KO a reckless manny because of his defensive posture. His mind set is not of Marquez who took inventory and try to get back at Pac whenever he got hit. It's 5 years too late, we are robbed of a great fight.
     
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  5. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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  6. Glass City Cobra

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  7. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Pacquiao is 5'5", not that hard to bulk up at that size. Tiny guys looked jacked by adding the slightest muscle.
     
  8. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bradley wasn't ever close to pacs level. When you're that far superior to a fighter you'll always beat them. Pac is still (to this day) physically fine, he'd have to be close to a shot pac to truly have any hiccup and lose to Bradley.

    Beating Bradley means absolutely nothing, he's never been close to pacs league, Bradley has nothing to keep pace from slapping him silly
     
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  9. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I see khan putting it ON pac and possibly a kd or 2

    Sorry, had to throw my 2 cents in
     
  10. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    No he didn't and no amount of you saying this over and over will change the outcome PBF is 4-0 against JLC and Maidana. PBF shut out the guy who put Pac in a coma, let that sink in.:deal:
     
  11. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Good job he shut out a career Featherweight. Don't pump up Floyd by touting victories over past prime Featherweights. It's weak man. He missed two HUGE fights in his career. And that was prime Oscar and prime Mosley. That should have been his legacy, but he pissed it away.
     
  12. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    You don't know **** about boxing. Pac's workrate would be lowered because PBF isn't there to be hit he's arguably the best defensive fighter of all time not only that he's the best counter puncher of this era with some of the best footwork of this era and ring IQ as well. I'll ask you this? When have you seen anyone throw 1000 punches against PBF? Why doesn't this happen?
    The same things that JMM has that trouble Pac footwork high ring IQ and countering PBF has that and more plus he's bigger faster and has better defense. Only a wishful thinking fool would think that these make no difference. PBF is a stylistic nightmare for Pac he can beat him to the punch control the range and dictate disatnce on him and no one here has been able to tell me how Pac gets over that. This isn't a video game. Also Pac didn't win clearly win 4 rounds against PBF that's the funniest **** I've heard all week. He won 3 rounds at best and the fight was basically over after the first round. A prime PBF would have beaten Pac worse than he did back on May 2nd 2015 and I'll always stand by that.

    JLC gave him problems because 1 PBF was injured going into the fight he actaully complained to his corner that his shoulder was bothering him. 2 he outweighed PBF in the ring by damn near 20 pounds. 3 his style is better suited to deal with PBF because he can cut off the ring and he was a great body puncher who could fight on the inside Pac fights nothing like that. PBF fought Maidana at 37 he was past his prime but he still won. Pac never clearly beat JMM in his prime that's a big difference. PBF damn near shut out Hatton and stopped him. PBF was about ready to stop Zab that's why he fouled to buy time and PBF fought Oscar at 154 a weight he had no business at with the deck stack against him and still won 9-3 easily so I don't even know what you're talking about here.

    What we do know is that prime Pac got beat by EM went life and death with JMM for 4 fights he lost while he was in his prime PBF didn't and when the two finally fought both past their prime PBF showed the world he was superior.
     
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  13. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Both both of these guys wanted nothing to do with PBF when they were at WW I love how you just left that out. PBF wanted both of them when he was at 135 and 140 but he was seen as too high risk low reward but of course when in doubt blame PBF for the fight not happening.
     
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  14. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    No Floyd is not the best defensive fighter ever. That's laughable. The best defensive fighters can maintain a high workrate and do a lot of hitting without getting hit. Duran and Whitaker are better at defense than Floyd.
     
  15. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Duran??? Please stop it. PBF is arguably the best defensive fighter in history he's hard to hit clean and it's hard to hit him with the same flush punch again other than a jab. His defense is legendary.