Something to think about....why Calzaghe can never win with the American boxing media

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  1. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If Joe Calzaghe beats young, prime, undefeated Mikkel Kessler his win isn't that big a deal. Mikkel Kessler isn't a top ten P4P fighter.

    If Joe Calzaghe beats top 5 P4P fighter Bernard Hopkins the win isn't that big a deal. Hopkins was too old. This begs the question, why was Hopkins amongst the top 5 P4P fighters in the first place?

    Due to American double standards and illogicallitism Joe Calzaghe would recieve less credit for beating either Kessler or Hopkins, than Hopkins did for beating Tarver (and losing twice to Taylor for that matter).
     
  2. jonesjrp4p1

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  3. China_hand_Joe

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    How is it Hopkins get put into the top 5 P4P fighters for beating Tarver but Calzaghe might not make the top 5 for beating Kessler mate?
     
  4. VIP

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    Hopkins jumps 2 weight divisions and defeated the recognized light-heavyweight champion, next fight defeats the #3 P4P fighter in Winky Wright. If Calzaghe beats both Kessler and Hopkins, it is logical that he should become a top 3 P4P fighter. Calzaghe has never fought a top P4P fighter, so it hurts him in that regards.
     
  5. Decy

    Decy Barely Coherent Full Member

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    He is correct though.
     
  6. China_hand_Joe

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    Beating Kessler is far more difficult than beating Hopkins, so once he has beaten Kessler defeating a 43+ year-old Hopkins should mean nothing. Calzaghe should be at number 1, 2 or 3 (depending on how devastating a victory) just for beating Kessler.
     
  7. China_hand_Joe

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    In fact, RING magazine recently moved Calzaghe down a few places, so they can bump him up again after beating Kessler without needing to put him in the top 4.
     
  8. China_hand_Joe

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    You need to not only got to America, but have an American promoter too mate. That is the only way to get the capitalist American media on your side.
     
  9. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    But the American Public has officially proclaimed Calzaghe "King of the Contender Runner-ups" after he beat the Pride of Providence and local role model to all mediocerly talented Italian Americans with flat noses....Peter Manfredo.

    If it wasn't for his war against this famous t.v. star, America wouldn't even know who Calzxaxgthezegehe was :good
     
  10. platnumpapi

    platnumpapi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    hopkins got screwd in the taylor 1 fight so dont even bring that up.

    bhop is old and he is so post to lose and when ever he does we can say he was to old, i mean hell its the truth.hes just that damn good i guess.

    i like to see joe fight chad dawson hell id like to see him fight rjj or bhop or taylor.he gets his props from me, but to get my upmostt respect he would have to fight and beat aleast 3 of the guys i named, oh throw winky in there as we,ll.
     
  11. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    If he wanted the American Media on his side, maybe he shouldn't have beaten up poor little Manfredo like that :bart
     
  12. VIP

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    I'm not so sure that beating Kessler is more difficult than beating a 43 year old Nard. Calzaghe will not be higher than 3 even if he blows Kessler out of the water. And that also depends on other results.

    And to the question about why Hopkins is top 5 P4P?, it's not only the Tarver win but also the recent Winky win who was #3 P4P.
     
  13. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Calzaghe needs to stop feeding off Alfonso Gomez left-overs and worry about how he's gonna take Kessler's money-punch.
     
  14. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Spinks did as well as Hopkins against Taylor, why isn't he in the P4P lists?

    Because he isn't worth as much money as Hopkins from a marketing point of view, that is why.
     
  15. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Yeah, because the ring shares in Hopkins PPV profits :nut