Sonny Liston: Baddest man ever.

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  1. Words

    Words Boxing Addict Full Member

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    **** Mike Tyson, Liston was from another world. Look at the guy, can you see the look of pain in those eyes?

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    Seriously, this guy was unreal. He absolutely annhilated Floyd Patterson, tore a hole through the heavyweight division despite no amatuer career. People talk about "Prime Tyson" being unbeatable, but I'm sorry, Prime Sonny Liston is on another level.

    He lost to Cassius Clay, yeah but we all know styles make fights. Young Ali is probably the fastest and most elusive heavyweight who ever lived, a brawler like Liston would struggle with him. But ya wanna know something, Sonny Liston was born in 1927, not 1932 which the mafia said when the made up his birth certificate. By the time he fought Ali the second time he was 38 years old, and an OLD 38, with no amatuer background just a life of poverty, crime, incarceration and terrible hardship.


    In his prime, had he not been run by mobsters, he could've been one of the best fighters of all time. Whatever you think of him, he was surely not a nice man, you have to have utter and total RESPECT for him as a fighter. Not to be ****ed with.
     
  2. joe33

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    My mum got his autograph in london when he came over when he was young,she said his hand was like a shovel,she sadly lost it years ago.

    Does the dive though not **** you of a wee bit?,probaly not much he could have done about it if the mob ordered it,but whos to know for sure?
     
  3. Words

    Words Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It pisses me off A LOT, because its ****ing corrupt obviously, but because if he hadn't been controlled by the mob he's have been a total monster. He was just unlucky to be caught up in all that ****.

    He had the biggest hands of any heavyweight ever, 15inches around, and 84inch reach, which is longer than Lennox Lewis who was 6ft5 compared to Sonny's 6ft1. He was also a natural left hander who fought orthodox, and had such a pulverising jab he could KO people with it.
     
  4. GARCIA

    GARCIA New Member Full Member

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    Untill Ali came along of course.
     
  5. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wonder how Liston would have fared with Foreman. I think he would have outboxed him to a decision.
     
  6. GARCIA

    GARCIA New Member Full Member

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    I'd have to disagree with your there mate.

    Foreman would bust that ass

    :deal
     
  7. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Liston has underrated boxing skills and a fantastic jab. Foreman crushed fighters who tried to swarm his or trade with him. Liston was bright enough not to do either IMO.
     
  8. Polymath

    Polymath Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Foreman said Liston was the only man who ever 'made him box'
    (A young Foreman sparred Sonny)
     
  9. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    Liston doesn't look intimidating to me in the slightest. He just has a really droopy , slow looking face. To compare him to Tyson in terms of intimidation is quite simply ridiculous. Maybe as a figher yes, and I am sure his abilities intimidated people, but on looks alone Tyson>>>>>>>Liston.
     
  10. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    Foreman would have been the bigger fighter though, with the longer reach. And Foreman had an under rated jab also. I think Sonny would have been caught, and the bigger stronger more powerful man would simply have dominated.
     
  11. A prime Tyson was NOT unbeatable :-( he was only 23 and in his Prime when Douglas Knocked him OUT:dead .
    A prime Holyfield with his speed, endurance and iron will would have given Liston more hell than a prime Tyson..
    Foreman would have KO'D LIston, so would a prime Lennox Lewis...
     
  12. Toopretty

    Toopretty Custom made Full Member

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    Liston was a big country mother****er. Always scary.
     
  13. If he was born in 1927 that would have made him only 43 when he passed away:-( so young to go..
    But a lot of guy's GO young when they get caught up with the mob..
     
  14. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    Liston was probably the greatest heavyweight technician ever.
     
  15. brownpimp88

    brownpimp88 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    tysons run from 86-89 was more impressive than listons run from 59-63