Sonny Liston (Clark '68) vs. Joe Frazier (Ali III '75)

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    You think Old Foreman was better than the Liston that stopped Clarke?
     
  2. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    Liston (Clark '68 ) was better than any version of Old Foreman, including the Cooney '90 to Holy '91 fight versions. :good
     
  3. Il Duce

    Il Duce Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hard to measure Sonny Liston after 1966,,,,,,,
    Going by his reseached and found birth date {1928} he was 40, when he fought
    Henry Clark in July 1968.
    A damn good performance, by any fighter, versus Henry Clark.

    He should have won The Ring Magazine 'Comeback Fighter of the Year' for 1968.
     
  4. McGrain

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    It's an excellent and mature performance by Sony, against a good and gutsy fighter.
     
  5. groove

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    frazier beats that version of liston
     
  6. Il Duce

    Il Duce Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sonny was vulnerable to straight rights over the top, and inside left hooks to
    the body.

    Since Joe's right hand was more of a swat, the left hook would have to be used
    overtime.

    Smokin Joe would win, but he would defintely get lumped up.
     
  7. manbearpig

    manbearpig A Scottish Noob Full Member

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    Close to negligible difference in my opinion, but I know spanish Foreman Hook will argue whilst foaming at the mouth about Foreman 'shitting' on Liston or something.
     
  8. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    You're killing me, i'm in stitches. :lol::lol:
     
  9. McGrain

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    He gone, I hear.

    Though I don't doubt he'll be back.
     
  10. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    Thanks for being the bringer of good news McGrain. :happy



    I would like to hear StoneHand's & SuzieQ's opinion on this match-up.
     
  11. manbearpig

    manbearpig A Scottish Noob Full Member

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    In a way, I'm sad, as he made sure I'm never thought of as the worst poster since all I do is post sarky stuff about Dempsey on occasion and type lacklustre opinions to an even shoddier standard, but his sheer nutjob aggression was starting to grate.
     
  12. clark

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    Frazier stops Liston in 8 or 9.
     
  13. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    Tough pick. Ali brought out the best in Frazier by calling him things like an "Uncle Tom" and a "gorilla". I doubt Liston resorts to that but if I'd had to pick then Liston wins by a narrow decision. Interesting fight.
     
  14. Il Duce

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    Would have liked to see Joe Frazier take on Henry Clark in 1968/1969 or 1973/1974.

    Then we would have gotten a better idea on how a Liston vs. Frazier bout would have been.
     
  15. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Frazier-Clark would have been really interesting, because Joe would have bypassed Henry's chin. Norton was also known for good body work, and he was the only one aside from Liston and Shavers to stop Clark. (Putting Henry on the deck would have been an ostrich feather in the cap, but nobody ever managed it.)