Sonny Liston - Had To Lose In Lewiston, Maine

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  1. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    4d 6th time , amazing .
    and again , u may be some1 else than Ali_ , so r u Liellah's lawyer ?

    and again , your posts in this 1 thread r so different from 1 another .

    bikoz due 2 fixes like this and cheats like with 4man , Cooper , Frazier #2 and Terrell and gifts like with Doug Jones , Alonzo Johnson and George Chuvalo and fighting handicapped opponents (Patterson #1 , Cleveland Williams) or severely aged 1s like Liston , Williams , Folley and Patterson #2 (even Lyle can qualify as severely aged , older than Ali himself whom is considered past his prime by most by de time when he fought Lyle) .

    Supposing that u do not lie again , which is not a smart supposition 2do , looking like in shape may jast b his excuse 4 not taking a dive .

    I know that u and yor laix will ignore/reject it .

    So u reckon that Liston was aged and not in de "best shape of his life" like some1 here st8ed b4 ?
     
    frankenfrank, Nov 19, 2012
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  2. Senor Pepe'

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    Groove Man,

    Lets not forget, that after Cleveland Williams came back in 1966,

    February 1966 - He was floored and nealy knocked out in the 1st Round by Ben Black
    in his 'first' comeback bout.

    March 1966 - Cleveland was floored twice early, and nearly knocked out by Mel Turnbow
    in the 2nd comeback fight.

    April 1966 - And was nearly decisioned by 'journeyman' Sonny Moore, who had Cleveland in big
    trouble in early in the fight in his 3rd comeback fight.

    Unfortunately Cleveland, could not support himself with the bad leg, at the time.
     
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  3. Senor Pepe'

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    Novemebr 1965

    Robert Nilon, 50% owner of I-C-P, the promotions firm who handled
    the 'Fiasco in Maine', is now in control of the Cassius Clay vs. Floyd Patterson bout.

    There is so much paperwork to unfold, nobody is quite clear on who
    the other interested parties are.

    Salvatore Avena, a New Jersey Attorney, and William Crawford (listed
    as Sonny Liston's father in-law) both held intersets in I-C-P, but
    both have sold their shares to Fred Brooks (Sports Vision, Inc.) and
    Robert Garcia.

    Sam Margolis, who represented Sonny Liston, has close ties to mob interests,
    also owned a portion of I-C-P.

    On a lighter note, the former Champion Sonny Liston still thinks he is
    an officer with I-C-P, but an associate with I-C-P said, 'We are done
    with Mr. Liston.'

    According to I-C-P officers, Mr. Liston has sold off all his shares, and
    is no longer involved in any official business with I-C-P. Unfortunately,
    Mr. Liston doesn't understand contracts. You cannot sell off all your
    shares, and still think you are entitled to revenue from I-C-P.

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    Senor Pepe', Nov 19, 2012
    Senor Pepe', Nov 19, 2012
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    Yes, the loss sent shockwaves through the State Boxing Commissions,

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    Senor Pepe', Nov 23, 2012
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