Sonny Liston is Joe Fraizers worst nightmare

All good Sonny. I know how to deal.

 

You're an idiot if you think Frazier was scared of Foreman (or anyone for that matter). If he was, he would've actually faired better.

 

Is it Jo? Without the E?

 

I agree he’s a bad style match up for Frazier but the worst?
It can’t get much worse than being knocked down 6 times and decimated inside 2 rounds by Foreman’s style of fighting!
Sonny would have to be going some!

 

He didn't lie again, Ali never reclaimed what he sais but it was Angelo Dundee who sais it was accident so I caught you again lying.

Ali said that not because Quarry would beat hom but because he was not in shape and was tired after 3 rounds.

Again lying by you but you keep going because you're embarassing yourself more and more.

 

Jesus do you carry a pitchfork for me let it go

 

Reading this thread I feel quite validated with putting some of the posters who apparently have posted in it on ignore.

 

Just look at the beginning face off. George's stoicism was righteously pissing Joe the f off.

 

As much of a perfect punching machine as Liston was, it seems to me the only guy he fought against that was anywhere near the level of FOTC Frazier was Ali, and he lost badly twice. I do understand that Sonny was pushing 34 (or several years more according to a not insignificant sum of people) and yes, he had bad judgement carrying on with a bum shoulder.

I think the guy who wiped out Patterson in the first fight would crack the hell out of Frazier, but get really daunted by Joe's perseverance. That Patterson/Liston was a h2h MONSTER, and definitely belongs on the top 6 or 7 h2h with Tyson, Lewis, Foreman, and 1967 Ali.

But FOTC Frazier takes that vaunted top h2h spot imo; no one was more viciously vengeful, focused, adaptable than Joe that night. He was going to die trying. Mike himself said he couldn't stand up to that courageousness, and neither could any other heavyweight imo.

 

I agree. He wasn't that good compared to the monster he was fifteen years prior. Excellent observation.

 

Frazier had the stylistic advantage against Ali. He wouldn't have it against Liston.

 

You’re a 24 carat fool.

Nothing but hot air and no proofs provided - as usual and as is your “standard”.

You claimed Ali was dominated and that Ali said so himself. It’s all there, as quoted.

Pathetically changing your position to align with what I actually stated in refute doesn’t change the fact that you’re the ONLY liar here - and yes, everyone here knows it.

Where’s the monstrous body punch that Quarry landed???

You were ASKED to point to same but couldn’t.

Talking out of your derrière yet again. You’re dead set useless. You are not worthy of this board or responding to further on this matter.

Btw, where are your parents and why have they left you unattended?

 

To be fair, I do believe stated he was happy the fight ended as Quarry was beginning to trouble him (which likely had to do with his rust and relative lack of endurance) when it did which is obviously a far cry from Ali saying Quarry dominated him.

 

It is like there is a quote where Ali compared fighters power.

Again you lied and I caught you and you act like it you didnt say that which is showing what is you.

 

Sure, the legitimate context re the Quarry fight is and was always understood.

However, as you said, Ali wasn’t dominated nor did he say he was dominated as was BFool’s initial claim, which he has since tried to change.

He provides no proofs, makes wildly false claims and completely avoids specific refutes - then, in pure projection of himself, accuses others of lying.

His last post to me doesn’t even make sense from the ground up.

He is definitely a lost ball in the high weeds.