Sonny liston is overrated.

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  1. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    That Ring interview is from late1974 it has to be stated, for purposes of accuracy.
     
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  2. Spreadeagle

    Spreadeagle Active Member Full Member

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    Ok but as has already been addressed is the fact that since Ali did stated that Liston
    provided him with his toughest fight is confirmation that he found Sonny Liston to be an
    extremely formidable opponent.If he changed his mind later on fair enough but the key issue is that at
    one time Muhammad Ali did nominate Sonny Liston as his toughest opponent.
     
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  3. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  4. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That’s fair enough but our friend stated that Ali had never said Liston gave him his toughest fight when he clearly did.
     
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  5. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Someone butthurt again?
    Is your hero still green with 35 pro fights just because LHW beat him like a drum?
     
  6. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So much said but still you said nothing...as I excpected, typical for you.
     
  7. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I know what Muhammad said in his autobiography, and I also know what Angelo Dundee said.

    The question is which was Ali's hardest and most difficult fight, and the answer to that, the hardest single fight he ever had, Ali unquestionably believed it was his third fight with Frazier, the "Thrilla in Manila." Ali said:

    "that was the closest thing to death I ever experienced."


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    In his autobiography,"The Greatest: My Own Story," Ali said the first fight with Norton, which he managed to finish on his feet despite a broken jaw was:

    the second toughest time I had as a fighter." (Manila was first)

    In total, the hardest fights, plural, of his career, and his two most difficult opponents, were those fights with Kenny Norton, with Joe Frazier a close second.
     
  8. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I know what Muhammad said in his autobiography, and I also know what Angelo Dundee said.

    The question is which was Ali's hardest and most difficult fight, and the answer to that, the hardest single fight he ever had, Ali unquestionably believed it was his third fight with Frazier, the "Thrilla in Manila." Ali said:

    "that was the closest thing to death I ever experienced."


    CREDIT PICTURE FIGHT CITY

    In his autobiography,"The Greatest: My Own Story," Ali said the first fight with Norton, which he managed to finish on his feet despite a broken jaw was:

    the second toughest time I had as a fighter." (Manila was first)

    In total, the hardest fights, plural, of his career, and his two most difficult opponents, were those fights with Kenny Norton, with Joe Frazier a close second.
     
  9. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No...obsession with liars and hurt fantards like you who lives in delusion.
     
  10. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He did survive, that was not serious injury that could ens his life but could hurt his carrer and it for sire hurt his performance.
    It's helluva worse than injured shoulder, as I explained.
    I attended and graduated Medical High School Prokopovic.
     
  11. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Why?
    Because only your hero fought hurt and quit while cheating?
     
  12. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So what?
    Ali fought punch drunk with Holmes and Bebrick, Archie Moore fought till age 50 and so did Foreman, Frazier fought hald blinded and high blood pressure...and no one quit.
     
  13. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I know what Muhammad said in his autobiography, and I also know what Angelo Dundee said.

    The question is which was Ali's hardest and most difficult fight, and the answer to that, the hardest single fight he ever had, Ali unquestionably believed it was his third fight with Frazier, the "Thrilla in Manila." Ali said:

    "that was the closest thing to death I ever experienced."


    CREDIT PICTURE FIGHT CITY

    In his autobiography,"The Greatest: My Own Story," Ali said the first fight with Norton, which he managed to finish on his feet despite a broken jaw was:

    the second toughest time I had as a fighter." (Manila was first)

    In total, the hardest fights, plural, of his career, and his two most difficult opponents, were those fights with Kenny Norton, with Joe Frazier a close second.

    The greatest HWs Ali named were Joe Louis, Jack Johnson and Rocky Marciano.
     
  14. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You're so butthurt again hhhahaa...so much said you still said nothing fool.
    Medical Highschool Prokopovic, 4 years then 9 months as volunteer for free, just to inform you, my father also worked as a nurse there.

    Wonder if this help?
     
  15. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I’m not disputing Ali said all that, it’s just you claimed Ali never said that Liston was his hardest fight which he clearly did.
     
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