Sonny liston is overrated.

Pug,you would be an immensely rich man !

 

Nigel Benn?

Someone buthurt again?
According to you all of them lied and your hero never did that just because you like him.
Pathetic...

 

And why did it take Liston more to beat Machen?
Plus Ingo dropped Patterson with one punch so his one punch power was maybe better than Liston.

That's like saying Shavers didn't hit as hard as Norton because Shavers was knocked by Quarry...chin is for chin but we're here talking about punching power.
Ingo one shot punch punching power is better than Liston.

Nope it doesn't because the fighter who quit twice and blinded their opponents couldn't be compared with gus like Marciano, Frazier, Ali etc.
Fighter who doesn't quit against bim twice smaller than him isn't the courage, courage is to keep fighting against top notch fighters without trying to blind them and then pull 10 000 excuses.

 

Yes because they have no heart.
Duran was known as sore loser too, he would quit against Benitez too but he changed his mind.

 

So according to you, wait for it.................Roberto Duran,Vitali Klitschko,Mike Tyson and Sonny Liston are
all cowards !

 

Ok if we're talking about punching power how about Sonny Liston knocking out 7 of Wayne Bethea's teeth
with one punch.That is just one example of the monstrous punching power possessed by Liston.
I repeat,when talking about the relative performances of Liston and Johansson against Patterson the specific
power of one particular punch isn't an issue.I'm giving an example of Liston's punching power because
of your peculiar agenda about the punching power of Liston and Johansson.
Muhammad Ali stopped Oscar Bonavena inside the distance,something Joe Frazier failed to do in
2 fights with Bonavena.Are you now going to suggest that Ali was a harder puncher than Frazier ?
I have given you the back story to Liston's first fight with Ali which you wilfully choose to ignore.

 

No, they just lacked hearts of true champions, true champions like Ali or Frazier never quit not even if they're dying.

 

Yeah he was 200 years old with all bones broken in his body and he was like that too in the aecond fight?
He just quit, deal with that.

I wouldn't compare Bethea with Machen or Patterson against whom Ingemar did better than Sonny.

 

Ok so in your opinion all of these warriors lacked heart.This says so much more
about you then Liston,Duran,Vitali or Tyson.
There really is no point in pursuing this issue.

 

You're still wilfully ignoring the back story to Ali vs Liston.Why don't you just admit you have this warped
agenda against Sonny Liston ?
So because Wayne Bethea never reached the heights of Patterson or Johansson knocking out
seven of Bethea's teeth doesn't count when assessing Liston's raw punching power ?

 

Lol.

Can you believe that since your most recent reply to me (above) I would’ve made another dollar with the usual suspect ripping “butt hurt”’out of his own butt yet again?

His preoccupation with that part of the body being hurt is only surpassed by his irrational and unbridled hatred of Liston.

 

Because they are not warriors if they lacked heart and quit that is what separates champions and chumps.
Jack Dempsey: 'A champion is someone who gets up when he can't.'
Marvin Hagler: ” A champion shows who he is by what he does when he’s tested. When a person gets up and says ‘I can still do it’, he’s a champion.”

 

Which backstory, maybe finding thousand excuses because Ali whopped his ass?
Which backstory, if you bring injuries, remember that Frazier fought with one hand and blind but he still did not quit unlike your hero.

 

Why are you bringing Bethea because he did not fought Johanson or Patterson and was not common opponent?
We are comparing how Liston and Ingo did against common opponents and Ingo did better against Patterson and Machen.

 

That's exactly my point.Liston did far better than Johansson against Patterson but you set a massive
emphasis on Patterson saying that one of Johansson's punches was the hardest he ever felt.
You were really hung up on how hard Johansson could punch.I referred to Liston's fight with Bethea
to illustrate how incredibly hard Liston could punch.
Fine,ok, let's forget about punching power.Once again here we go----Liston destroyed Patterson
in one round in both of their fights.It took Johansson three rounds to beat Floyd in the only fight he
won.In their other two fights Patterson damn near killed Ingemar in their second fight and stopped
him in the sixth round of their their third fight.Your stance that Johansson did better against Patterson than Liston did is absolutely crazy !