everyone here must e talking about the shell of the real jeffries, the one who fought johnson.thats like judging louis by his rocky fight,ali by his last fights instead of his prime,or holfield by his most recent fight.the real jeff could out box you,a master at knowing the distance and timing to destroy you with a fastjab from the outside springing in and an awsome left hook.or he could simply trade with you untill you either fall down or die.a bloody jeffries ko,s liston inside of 15)
I don't think much of Jeffries. He was badly troubled by a shot Corbett, drew with a weak chinned light-heavy in Choynski, and went life and death with a crude, slugging 180 pounder in Sharkey. Liston stops him.
Pugilist, I dont think Louis who fought marciano belongs in the same category as the ali who fought holmes and jeffries who fought johnson. the louis who fought marciano was still whipping on the top young contenders in the heavyweight division, while ali in 1980 and jeffries were defintley not and coming off long layoffs.
This might be because you don't know enough to make a good guess. Jeffries vs Corbett was about even until he KO. Choynski was in his prime and a veteran with a KO win over Jack Johnson. Jeffries was a green novice. While the offical call was a draw, Choynski was floored 3 times, and coasted in the 2nd half of the fight. Jeffries beat a prime Sharkey, likley Sharkey's best effort with an injrured shoulder, under white hot lights. Corbett, Choynski and Sharkey are Hall of fame fighters. I could say Liston could not put away quick boxer Machen who was NO Corbett. Liston lost to and was FLOORED and LOST by a smaller and weaker Marshall. And Liston was badly KO'd vs Martin.
Including the Martin defeat is a little like including Jeffries ko by Johnson, M. Even at an advanced age Liston floored Martin before he ran out of gas. I think Liston had more tools than Jeffries,,and if he trained diligently ,I see him winning this fight,by dec or tko.
Watching the films, Machen looked alot more polished and modernized than corbett. Corbett fought bareknuckle style, a style that wouldnt work in the 1960s.......machens style was very modernly technical
Liston ,not only looked powerful, he was powerful,he had a giants statistics compressed into a 6' 1'' body. Ko percentages dont tell the full story and should be used only as a guide, Ike Williams was a great puncher ,yet his% is not astounding.