Sonny Liston Vs Billy Conn, how does it play out?

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  1. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

    Oct 28, 2017
    Liston of the first Ali fight, versus Conn of the first Louis fight, 15 rounds.
  2. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

    Aug 15, 2018
    Idk if Conn hit hard enough to get Listons respect. Ali def annoyed him. Can def see Conn getting under his skin but eventually the big bear is gonna get him
  3. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

    Feb 15, 2006
    I suspect that Liston would have adapted a bit better than Louis, if things were going A over T.

    He could think on his feet a bit faster.

    This might be one fight that Liston handles a bit better.
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  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

    Mar 21, 2007
    The thing is, Conn developed a very specific plan for fighting Louis that was based on an absurdly good read and with a fighter good enough and brave enough to execute it. Looking back on it it's "yeah, of course" or a bit, but at the time nobody thought that was the way to fight Louis.

    However, it absolutely is not the way to fight Liston. I've no idea how this would go in detail except to say that Conn wouldn't approach it like he approached Louis or Pastor. What they would come up with is anyone's guess, but I presume it would involve running away a lot.
  5. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

    Jun 2, 2006
    Billy would be doing well to get to the 10th.
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  6. ray fritz

    ray fritz Active Member Full Member

    Nov 4, 2018
  7. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Mar 3, 2019
    This is more or less what I had in my head, I Imagine Conn would fail to mount enough offence with Liston's jab in the way and Conn on toes to avoid being took out.
  8. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

    Jan 8, 2017
    Bit by bit, Liston breaks him down. Conn can't escape forever verses the Bear.
    Liston by 9rd ko.
  9. JC40

    JC40 Boxing fan since 1972 banned Full Member

    Jul 12, 2008
    Liston was a lot stronger fighter than Louis and Sonny was very rough in the clinches as well as being an artful kidney puncher and he was very adept at holding and hitting. I find it hard to see Conn surviving very long despite Billy’s speed and his huge ticker.

    If Conn was say Eddie Machen’s size then I would give him a much greater chance of surviving or even doing fairly well. In my opinion it’s very hard to see a 170 pound fighter surviving Liston’s inside assault.

    Cheers All
  10. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

    Jun 2, 2006
    I doubt Sonny would last that long against Conn's dynamite fists.
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  11. thistle

    thistle Boxing Addict Full Member

    Dec 21, 2016
    Not Well!
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  12. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Feb 18, 2012
    Liston would rough him up and break him apart quicker than Louis did.
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  13. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

    Jan 8, 2017
    Well, you may be right there mcvey. Conn was a beast!!
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  14. Hookandjab

    Hookandjab Well-Known Member Full Member

    Feb 19, 2014
    Conn by decision. Similar to Marty Marshall's victory, but more decisive.
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  15. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

    Jun 2, 2006
    You only have to look at Conn's ko percentage to see Sonny has zero chance of lasting the distance.
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