Sonny Liston vs George Chuvalo Prime for prime and in 1971

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by abdelfadeel, Jun 22, 2014.


  1. heavy_handss

    heavy_handss Guest

    no, the power of frazier is not overrated, it is underrated if anything, ali was drunk and he was down BY a single left hook of frazier , HE DID PUT ELLIS TO SLEEP WITH A BIG LEFT HOOK too, HE COULD PUNCH VERY HARD , earnie shavers in 1977 did land a big right hand on a zombie 77 ali and could not even drop him. And yes, i know that liston faced a younger version of machen but still i think that it has to do with styles and frazier would ko every version of machen. About foreman vs chuvalo.. I don´t know what would have happened if the referee had not stopped the fight, we can talk just about we saw, and foreman could not put him down
     
  2. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Ellis was retired on his stool, Frazier did not ko him.

    Actuallly you might want to look up whom Frazier DID ko ? You won't find many of any class there..Frazier hit Ali with left hooks all night he finally dropped him in the last round and Ali got up immediately,and Frazier only managed to drop him once in 3 fights.Ali was in more trouble when he was dropped by Cooper.

    Frazier beat on Buster Mathis all night before stopping him, he was a grinder not a one punch ko boxer against class opposition.
    It hasn't to do with styles, it has to do with catching old fighters at the right time of their careers.
     
  3. heavy_handss

    heavy_handss Guest

    well, we could be arguing forever, i disagree is all i can say, get a nice day
     
  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    You could also have said you are right, Frazier never kod a top fighter and he never kod Jimmy Ellis ,but you didn't.:nono
    We will no doubt speak again.:good