Sonny Liston vs George Chuvalo

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  1. Joe E

    Joe E Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It wasnt. Chuvalo had declined a little less though. Discounting Listons age, whatever it may have been, he was nearly physically spent from many years of abusing his body with Dope and Booze. Legs gone, desire no longer there, stamina waning, just able to take a punch, he was fighting for paychecks alone. In 69 or 70, I would give Chuvalo a live chance.
     
  2. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    A prime Liston tko's and butchers Chuvalo..maybe not decking him but thrashing George as decisively as Frazier and Foreman did..I'm talking '60 to ''63 Liston. Post '65 Liston has a real fight on his hands with a determined, rugged Chuvalo...he may have copped a decision but that would be all.
     
  3. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I don't know if my logic answers the question, but I figure that if green versions of Foreman and Frazier with umpteen number of fights managed to stop Chuvalo, then a peak Liston who crippled the whole division proabably could as well..

    My two cents.....
     
  4. Joe E

    Joe E Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Young, on the rise versions of Frazier, Foreman. 59/62 Liston beats Chuvalo without much trouble. However, 69/70 maybe not.
     
  5. TartanSoldier

    TartanSoldier Barnburner. Full Member

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    Liston cut stoppage after landing the jab consistently and tearing up Georges face. Somewhere around the 10th.
     
  6. Kid Bacon

    Kid Bacon All-Time-Fat Full Member

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    My take:

    Peak Liston destroys peak Chuvalo

    Spent Liston still defeats spent Chuvalo, but it is not so onesided
     
  7. Vince Voltage

    Vince Voltage Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Seems to me that George lost every major fight he was ever in, except the controversial Quarry win, so it would be tough to pick him against one of the most formidable dudes ever.
     
  8. Joe E

    Joe E Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Spent Liston couldve been KOd by Chuvalo in the same manner Leotis Martin did.
     
  9. rodney

    rodney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Watch those fightd.
    Chuvalo was doing pretty good --- especially against Frazer.
    And against Forman --- not bad.
    Both Frazer & Forman knock Listen out.
     
  10. rodney

    rodney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Listen --- not impressed.
    Watch Patterson - Chuvalo.
    Chuvalo - Ali.
    Now -- remember Ali - Listen.
    Wake up.
     
  11. rodney

    rodney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Chuvalo brings the "DOG" out in Sonny.
    If he couldnt scare you --- he got scared.
     
  12. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Luckily for Chuvalo, Liston quit again in the second Ali fight.
     
  13. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    1960 Sonny Liston ****s up Chuvalo. I love liston
     
  14. SenorRamirez

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    Prime Liston win under 10 round by Tko :)
     
  15. Joe E

    Joe E Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Based on what? His KO loss to Martin or his stopage of Wepner who wasnt in Chuvalos' league?