Sonny Liston vs. George Foreman

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  1. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Liston couldn’t be the best fighter in 1956 because nobody knew who he was. He didn’t fight anyone until 1959 and in 1959 Ingo was the best fighter in the world. 1960 is the earliest you can make a case for Sonny.
     
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  2. mcvey

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    Liston knocked Marshall down in 4 times in the 6rds their 2nd fight lasted.
     
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  4. choklab

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    Then in the next fight, with four days notice, the 179 pounder lasted the full 10 rounds bloodying Listons nose and lips. Yes he didn’t win any rounds but the guy was four days notice and only 179lb.
     
  5. SuzieQ49

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    Marshall ran the entire fight. He admitted doing so. He lost every round like you state.


    What is their to fuss about? It’s a dominating win for a inexperienced young fighter
     
  6. mcvey

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    Who says he bloodied his nose and lips? 168lbs Billy Conn went in the thirteenth round with199.6lbs Joe Louis and was in front and trying to win! Nearly 30lbs disparity!
    Marshall, by his own admission ran away all night , he never attempted any offense,such blatantly negative opponents are very hard to take out.
    Liston has 14 fights under his belt compared to Marshall's 34.
    Late notice?
    FYI Marshall had fought a distance fight less than a month earlier
    Jeeesus you hate Liston don't you!


    This is a no win thread for you because you haven't anything decent to say about either guy!!!
    Or maybe you though great,I get to **** off both guys?

    One has to wonder why you posted here?
     
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  7. JohnThomas1

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    Imagine if he had 5 or 6 days notice and weighed 185 pounds!!!! Poor Sonny :lol:
     
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  8. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    The fight report.

    Jimmy Jordon, Pittsburgh post Gazette March 7 1956

    “Marshall backing up most of the fight, did manage to land a few wild lefts and rights, all haymakers, high on Listons head as he fought with the finesse of an octopus reaching for its prey, but the only apparent damage he inflicted was a slight trickle of blood from the left nostril and a bit of blood from the lower lip of Liston.”
     
  9. choklab

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    Haha.
     
  10. mcvey

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    That's it then ,he was robbed!
     
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  11. LD Boxer-Puncher

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    Foreman by KO in the middle rounds
     
  12. ETM

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    Do you believe that?
     
  13. mcvey

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    I think you are way too early with this from 59 onwards you have a case.Ingo had beaten Cooper and Machen,Liston had beaten DeJohn,Williams, Valdes.
     
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  14. choklab

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    By the end of 1959 Ingo had already beat Cooper, Erskine, Machen and Patterson. By 1959 Sonny had beat Nino Valdes and that was about it so far as fighters with a name. Dejohn was decent but losing to Valdes at that time. Williams was just another prospect back then. So with that timeline, Sonny needed the kind of wins he he put together in 1960 before he could perceivably be considered as the best out there.
     
  15. JohnThomas1

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    There's that agenda again. You throw up Erskine for Ingo, a guy who wasn't ring rated yet throw out DeJohn (ring rated) and fail to mention the ring rated Bethea on Liston's side.

    Throwing out resume it's entirely probable Liston would have touched up Ingo in 58. Patterson as well.
     
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