Sonny Liston vs. George Foreman

Cavicchi was never more than Euro level.

 

And Euro Level was part of world level at that time since Ingo was European. The best fighters of the period Floyd, Machen, Folley, Pastrano all lost to Europeans.

What is Euro anyway? If we have African Americans in America are the white fighters in America Therefore Euro-Americans? I should expect Euro Americans to be closer related to Europe than the African Americans are related to Africa. It’s certainly more authentic.

 

Knowing what I know now, probably Sonny.

In 1959 though? Ingo would be seen as a fair match.

 

You're describing your reasons for imagining that Cavicchi might have been ranked when he fought Johansson. They don't change the fact that he wasn't.

Cavicchi was briefly ranked after winning the European title in 1955. He slipped out of the top 10 in early 1956, then picked up a loss to journeyman Hans Friedrich before meeting Johansson.

 

One guy breaking through is an anomaly it doesn't mean all the other Euro level heavyweights suddenly became world class.Euro level means just what it says the fighter is European level at best ie not world class!
Please stop with this ridiculous spin you are making me dizzy!
WTF did Cavicchi beat!

 

Cavicchi recovered with an international fight with Heinz Neuhaus in defence of his title. A big event, winning by knockout. And he remained unbeaten until losing his title to Ingo. Neuhaus was decent. He won and drew with Rex Layne.

 

Hardly an anomaly.

Folley lost to Europeans.

Machen lost to Europeans.

Patterson lost to a European.

Harris lost to Europeans.

Rex Layne lost to a Europeans.

Willie Pastrano (rated as a heavyweight during that period) lost to Europeans.

How many other top heavyweights were there of this period?

I think Sonny was the only top heavyweight of the period not to lose to a European.

 

Champions are always the man to beat. Was he the best heavyweight going? Different question, different answer