Sonny Liston vs Ike Ibeabuchi

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  1. Executioner

    Executioner Boxing Addict Full Member

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  2. Muchmoore

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    Liston by KO in a Cleveland Williams like encounter.
     
  3. PowerPuncher

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    Ibeauchi took everything Tua threw without been badly wobbled. Tua hits as hard as Liston. I doubt either fighter is stopped.

    I think Liston does better due to his jab he'd outbox Ike, but Ikes pressure, strength and combinations trouble Liston and win rounds.

    Liston UD 115-113
     
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  4. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I say Liston pounds him behind that powerful jab and stops him around the 9th round.I think Ike would have his moments but to try and overpower Liston is not the best way to win.
     
  5. Muchmoore

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    Ike could definently get stopped by Liston. If not early than later.

    Tua and Liston are in two different leagues.
     
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  6. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    My thoughts as well. Liston never faced someone who looks as good on film as Ibeabuchi does, he'll be in quite some trouble. Ibeabuchi was a monster.
     
  7. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    115-113 speaks of 12 rounds, but I like the close score.

    I don't think that Liston could match Ibeabuchi's work rate. That will win some rounds for Ike. The problem for Ike is that he comes forward like everyone is a nobody. I think that Liston's Jab would offset a lot of Ike's combo's, and have him resetting much of the time. I think that Liston's right hand would shake Ike at moments, and make the busier man lose rounds he would normally win against someone other than Liston.

    I think Liston would win the majority of the rounds with his jab and straight right, but Ike would make it a close score like the one mentioned at the beginning of this post.
     
  8. fightking12

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    I'm not really sure who wins because Ibeabuchi did stop boxing and he did beat Tua and Byrd. But I guess I would have to go with Liston
     
  9. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Liston by UD or late KO. Ibeabuchi had two fights against rated fighters, otherwise he fought the usual record padders. He is grossly overrated based on what he actually did in the ring. Not even in Liston's league.
     
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  10. LennoxGOAT

    LennoxGOAT Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think many only saw Ike against Byrd and maybe Tua (a bout which many believed he lost). Ike was rather ordinary in a lot of his fights. One of the most overrated figthers ever.
     
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  11. JohnThomas1

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    For once we agree wholeheartedly. A damn good fighter, but like Ayala and Mugabi he lives more on myth than accomplishment.
     
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  12. Sonny's jab

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    Ibeabuchi is an enigma and always will be.

    He was at that stage in his career where he had already proved he had the ability to fight for the championship and be seen as a serious threat to a good champion. But the questions of how he'd fare against Lewis, and is he the next dominant champ/all-time great remained completely unanswered.

    Ike vs. Liston is unanswerable. He's worthy enough to be taken VERY SERIOUSLY by Liston, but still no idea how he'd fare.
     
  13. Denny Cruser

    Denny Cruser Member Full Member

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    Concerning KOed Ike.
    Liston was unable to stop some 88 kg guys, how he would stop a 105 kg machine with a very good chin, throwing 100 punches per round. Ike was not Cl.Williams. Williams was a bum killer, with only 1 good win over Terrell among 92 fights :))) For example it take only 20 fights for Ike to get win over Tua and Byrd. I think the best result for Liston is win by close decision. Also it will be not easy for Sonny to defending against Ike combinations and workrate. Definetly Byrd`s defence is far superior that Liston`s, but Ike still landed good shots.
     
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  14. Executioner

    Executioner Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A case can be made that Liston hit harder than Tua. He was also physically stronger than him and wayyyyy better fighter.
     
  15. Executioner

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    Liston grinds Ike down with big shots until Ike is stopped in 11. :yep