Sonny Liston vs Ike Ibeabuchi

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  1. RAMPAGE0017

    RAMPAGE0017 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What case?
     
  2. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    As complete fighters, totally, but Tua hit Ibeabuchi clean and didn't stop him. The two fighters talent is not in question, but power is. Liston didn't hit as hard as Tua, so what makes you think he could stop him when Tua could't? Becuase he had a better jab and footwork or something?

    This is a hard fight to pick. Ike wasn't tested enough. On workrate, I might fancy an upset UD though.
     
  3. Executioner

    Executioner Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Liston is an ATG heavyweight puncher, Tua is just a guy that'll knock you out if you're not elite.
     
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  4. Sakura

    Sakura Boxing Addict banned

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    I think Ike is to powerful to Liston...Liston is small heavyweight with good reach and skills, but still my bet is Ibeabuchi
     
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  5. RAMPAGE0017

    RAMPAGE0017 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    ATG heavyweight puncher based on what? What elite fighters has Liston KOed?
     
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  6. RAMPAGE0017

    RAMPAGE0017 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    People blow Liston's power WAAAY out of proportion. The guy could obviously hit hard, and he had an excellent jab, but what gives people the inclination that he's this unbelieveable powerhouse? Because he stopped Williams, Patterson, and Folley? All these fighters have been stopped by others fighters, and some of them have been stopped by lesser opposition, as well.


    And just because Ike didn't stick around for very long, anybody should be able to look at what the guy's done in the ring and seen that he was definitely a big force to be reckoned with. He's one of two guys responsible for breaking the record of most punches thrown in a heavyweight bout, which was previously held Ali/Frazier 3 which lasted 14 rounds.... and Ibeabuchi and Tua broke that record throughout the course of only 12 rounds. And Ike and Tua looked like they could've fought on for even longer.

    I realize there aren't many believers in what Ike could've been, but anyone can look at what he's shown in the ring and see that he was an animal. He hit hard, he took a hard shot, he had phenominal work-rate and conditioning, and he could box, maybe not as well as Liston, but he could box well enough to catch slippery Chris Byrd.
     
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  7. Boro chris

    Boro chris Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My thoughts exactly. Ibeabuchi was good (I thought Tua edged him though) but the mythology built up around him is getting out of hand.
    Late stoppage for Liston.
     
  8. Cojimar 1945

    Cojimar 1945 Member Full Member

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    Liston might be overwhelmed by a stronger, bigger, faster opponnent. Liston would not look very imposing against some of the better heavyweights of more recent times who not only are bigger than him but also have formidable skills.
     
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  9. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    IKE was an unknown entity, fight with Tua could have gone either way and KO over Byrd good win but we know he was crazy, would it have surfaced in the ring like Golota and Iron MIke
     
  10. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    Don't forget that Ike Ibeabuchi is the inventor of Psycho Pugilism!

    "I'm in shape to fight right now. My boxing program includes shadow boxing and the study of "Psycho-pugilism". God willing, I shall introduce the world o£ boxing to my new supreme delicacy Psycho-pugilism (The Food of The Warrior Boxing God) upon my eventual return to the ring."

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    “We were having a fine meal at a nice restaurant,” Kushner says, “and mid-course Ike picked up a big carving knife, slammed it into the table and screamed ‘They knew it! They knew it! The belts belong to me! Why don’t they just give them back.’

    “That was a peculiar experience,” Kushner says. “That wasn’t the type of conduct I expected to romance the guy from HBO. (Ibeabuchi) was like a Viking.”

    Three months after his decisive triumph over Byrd, Ibeabuchi had more trouble at an airport, and this time it wasn’t the demons that refused to let him on board.

    His flight out of Dallas-Fort Worth was overbooked, and he didn’t take kindly to the news. As he stormed wildly through the terminal, police threatened him with pepper spray.

    “You better shoot me,” he replied. They sprayed him in the eyes and handcuffed him.

    That wouldn’t be the last time Ibeabuchi was pepper-sprayed. The next occasion would mark the stinging end of his freedom.


    And people are wondering why his parole officer keeps refusing, Ike makes Tyson look like a smart and quiet person.
     
  11. Denny Cruser

    Denny Cruser Member Full Member

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    ha-ha-ha. Liston coudnt stop 88 kg guys, while Tua knocked oud cold boxers of Ruiz type with very good chin in 19 seconds. Liston in different power league, although indeed very good boxer
     
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  12. Executioner

    Executioner Boxing Addict Full Member

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    you just made yourself look like a ****ing moron with a statement like that. :lol:

    "of Ruiz type" = bums :yep

    congrats newb :lol:
     
  13. C. M. Clay II

    C. M. Clay II Manassah's finest! Full Member

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    Liston scores a TKo in thirteen rounds. Liston would wear him down with body shots and his famous left hook and Ike would eventually succumb to Liston's arsenal.

    Sonny Liston TKO 13 Ike Ibeabuchi:good
     
  14. Denny Cruser

    Denny Cruser Member Full Member

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    Boy I see you are virtual warrior :rofl Dont bring me your stupidness. I dont take it.
     
  15. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    Ike by ko in 8-9