Sonny Liston vs Jack Dempsey

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I think it's fine to get emotinally involved with the fighters you love. In fact for the younger men, I think it's a must ;)
     
  2. JohnThomas1

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    Not the way he does at times.
     
  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I agree with you more than any other poster on the site, I think, but where Liston and Johnson are concerned we will always disagree I fear.
     
  4. janitor

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    I dont want to defend Dempseys period of inactivity but since such a big issue is being made of it I would point out that the top 5 of that period was made up mainly of people who Dempsey had fought previously or would fight later.

    The only person who deserved a title shot in that period and got shafted was Harry Wills.
     
  5. Luigi1985

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    First of all, thank you, good to hear that I have most times the same opinion like a good poster like you. You know, I have both, Johnson and Liston in my Top15 HW-list (Johnson at 8th ca., Liston at 10th ca.), so it´s not so that I hate both and don´t have them in my list or anything like that. But when we compare now Marciano´s or Lewis career with Liston´s, we have to be honest that Sonny´s resume isn´t that great, which would be very important to place him at 2nd or 3rd place. Head-to-head he wouldn´t also be the strongest ever or so IMO...
     
  6. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    my point was him calling Dempsey a coward, do u agree with his statement or not?
     
  7. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    but nobody is answering my questions

    John Thomas, who were these other many challengers that Dempsey avoided r failed to meet other then Wills?

    To whoever called Dempsey a coward, why was he a coward in the ring?
     
  8. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    :good
     
  9. janitor

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    A person who calls any world champion a coward is seriously in need of a reality check.
     
  10. Holmes' Jab

    Holmes' Jab Master Jabber Full Member

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    Greb, Langford and Jeanette for a start. :yep
     
  11. janitor

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    I could give you Greb, but Langford and Jeanette were relics by then.
     
  12. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Jeanette retired in 1919, the same year Dempsey won the title. Langford was old and had started going blind for years and was past it
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  13. JohnThomas1

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    Oh for sure, far better to run around lying, or at least attempting to get away with the most lies possible. Go to any lengths attempting to get the fantasy across, i mean what's a few intentional fibs?

    Whe you of all people can't post this

    after being caught out 3 times in about 7 days with blantant lies or fact altering to suit your own agenda, well, we lets just say we all know who's in need of the reality check

    :good

    Gotta go dmt, your questions will have to wait.
     
  14. McGrain

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    The point is: fighting Jack Johnson would have been better than fighting nobody. That is the problem here. There is nobody you can mention that Dempsey shouldn't have entertained because he didn't fight anybody instead.

    This isn't Calzaghe playing it safe. This is the World Champ fighting NO-ONE.
     
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  15. janitor

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    I am sorry that you choose to resort to personal attacks and mudslinging rather than ardress my points.

    If that is the best you have got to contribute then it isnt much.