Sonny Liston vs Jack Sharkey (fixed)

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  1. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Dempsey fought an actual Chaplin-esque opponent. Chaplin himself, in fact. All things equal, both mixing it in gloriously notorious Bad Framerate with Charlie literally kicking Jack’s ass.

    No one talks much about the time The Mauler lost to The Tramp but unlike the murky first fight v Flynn, this one is on film for the whole world to see and know the truth.

    https://youtu.be/wniMrsMTnyg
     
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  2. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Or, by the ninth round, both fighters are so confused that the 9th looks like the 15th round of Rocky 2, or any round of Baer and Carnera, only neither guy gets back up, both thinking they're supposed to stay down.
     
  3. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Well, rumour has it (perfect disclaimer) that Liston, so impressed by Sharks’ face first flop v Carnera, asked for lessons from the man himself on how to lay down convincingly in Maine.

    With all good intentions and enthusiasm, Sharks began the tutoring but gave up after just a few days, lamenting that Sonny was the worst student ever and couldn’t take the most simple instructions.

    In sheer frustration, after what ended up being their last lesson together, Sharks barked at Sonny, saying “Fine, do it YOUR way!”

    And so Sonny did and the rest is history.
     
  4. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    The fighters of Sonny's generation couldn't hold a candle to the Old Masters. They just didn't have the deep reservoir of diving experience to draw from that Sharkey and his contemporaries did.
     
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  5. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Yes! There were far better schooled fish flipping around in the old timers, purpose built, oversized dive tank. I believe they would even “buddy” up, choreograph and practice their respective moves in fabulously stunning synchronisation.

    Btw, to allay any misunderstanding, Sonny’s original impressions of Jack’s proficiencies in the lost art of diving weren’t gleaned from Bad Framerate Sharkey. No, not at all. 14 yo Sonny was actually there, saw Jack and Primo live, in the flesh. Even better than 8K 120 fps or whatever else they’ve come up with.
     
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  6. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    How inspiring it must have been for young Sonny to see Bad Framerate Sharkey diving in person, in all his flickering glory.
     
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  7. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    How I miss djanders.
     
  8. Anubis

    Anubis Boxing Addict

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    Sharkey was a diver in the Navy...
     
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  9. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Sharkey sees a vision of Ernie Schaaf and, after sampling an uppercut in which it was Liston's forearm that actually made contact with his chin,Sharkey theatrically swoons to the floor to be counted out.Double crossing the double crossers.
     
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  10. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Old Jack sure could swoon..
     
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  11. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    I know, it's hard to read his posts now.
     
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  12. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Excellent poster!
     
  13. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    Someone gives Sonny Liston what looks like oxygen, but it is really a whiff of Chloroform, Liston staggers from a clinch and rolls over in the 1st round, snoring, rattling the papers from all of the typewriters. Soon the writers think that a twister has hit in the inside of the auditorium. Ha Ha.
     
  14. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 MONZON VS HAGLER 2025 banned Full Member

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    :( This was a regrettable night time stroll through old threads.
     
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