Sonny Liston vs Mike Tyson,who wins?

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  1. pmfan

    pmfan Active Member Full Member

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    I agree. I also think Foreman, any Foreman, beats Tyson. I wish they would have fought. Tyson's flaws were always there (athletes don't all of a sudden lose their skills at the age of 23 absent injury. The Tyson supporters seem to think he is the only exception in the history of sport). It was a matter of time before they were exploited.
     
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  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    No, I mean long-range boxing, mid range punching or head on chest banging.
     
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  3. McGrain

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    Not unreasonable, but I think that Tyson could be timed. Lewis timed him in round one of their fight. But it just takes a very special combintation to do it - great accuracy and nerves of steel. Liston has this. But if he misses, he's got exactly what he wants for his next punch, a man coming onto him and a right hand ready to go.

    Now, how many times does Liston have to land that punch?
     
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  4. Sweet Pea

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    The Lewis fight is irrelevant.

    You make a point about the 1-2, but at the same time, how many clean hooks does Tyson have to land on Liston, especially considering he'd almost always be getting off first?
     
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  5. McGrain

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    Round 1, Mike was hot.

    Well that there is the question - for me, I think Liston scores enough with the jab (where we disagree) and would be at an advantage bringing Mike in for his other shots as opposed to being a stationary targer (momentum etc.) that he should dominate, and when Mike slows (he should slow) score the KO.
     
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  6. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    That's why it is irrelevant,he was shot.A little younger and maybe....:good
     
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  7. Sweet Pea

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    I certainly don't see a domination just because of a small edge Liston presumably holds (an edge I don't personally see). I see the arguments both ways as far as the matchup goes, and the fight's likely a tad more complicated than my simplistic analysis. I see Liston moving Mike with body shots and glancing blows at times, causing Mike to think and re-set, allowing Liston to put in work of his own. I just generally believe Mike gets off first more often than not, and with two punchers of this caliber I see one of them going down, and by my take it'd be Liston, say mid-rounds or so.
     
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  8. McGrain

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    Well round 1 can be of interest even if he was horrible the rest of the fight.
     
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  9. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Well,yeah but...everybody knows the rest of the fight...:!:
     
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  10. McGrain

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    It was pretty sorry.
     
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  11. TamaTonga

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    prime tyson win it by ko
     
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  12. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    I was watchinh and.....basically seeing him get chopped down.Couldn't believe it altough it was kinda expected
     
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  13. Mr. V.I.P.

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    Tyson wins via KO.
     
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  14. PanchoVilla

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    Tyson KO
     
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  15. Gatekeeper78

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    Tyson wins by knockout.
     
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