Sonny Liston vs Razor Ruddock

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Who wins and how

  1. Liston KO/TKO

    86.2%
  2. Ruddock KO/TKO

    6.9%
  3. Liston Decision

    6.9%
  4. Ruddock Decision

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Draw

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    This isn't fact at all since Tyson is the guy who knocked out the bigger guys and the fighters were never stopped. And you need to be medicated if think Liston was anywhere near as fast.
     
  2. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    And I'll pick Liston since Ruddock got caught with overhand rights by Lewis and Bonecrusher, but this purely an imagination pick since Liston never beat anyone as big and good as Ruddock (no Cleveland Williams).
     
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  3. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You need to be medicated if you missed the part where he said Liston was "not as fast".
     
  4. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Not sure if English is your first language, but "if not as fast as" implies that Liston might've been as fast as Tyson.
     
  5. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I mentioned Liston wasn't as fast, my friend.
     
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  6. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Are you drunk mate?
     
  7. GoldenHulk

    GoldenHulk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ruddock has a punchers chance, but Liston is better fundamentally. Plus that jab would pick Ruddock apart who was never that hard to hit.
     
  8. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Икрашевић Full Member

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    The reasons why I think Liston would win are:
    - Ruddock's defense
    - Liston's power
    - Liston's skill
     
  9. jabber74

    jabber74 Active Member Full Member

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    I went off on a bit of a tangent on Liston and Patterson than actually answering the question. Regarding Liston-Ruddock, I guess in that matchup or comparison I like Liston better. Ruddock was a pretty good sized heavyweight himself, and he could punch, but in the fights against Tyson, and Morrison, he fell short... and against Lewis he totally froze and was stopped quickly. Something tells me he freezes against Liston too and gets stopped.
     
  10. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    I think he'd be a tougher opponent than Williams
     
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  11. Unique Way

    Unique Way New Member Full Member

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    Ruddock, however, had a history of losing to smaller guys - Tyson, Morrison. Past prime Weaver also gave him all he could handle. And Liston was much better than Weaver or Morrison
     
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  12. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    That isn't a valid point. Ruddock's best wins were against guys who were around Liston's size except for Bonecrusher who was probably a little bigger. Ruddock was inactive and disinterested in boxing for the Morrison fight and still mightve won if not for a premature stoppage...doesn't count for much.
     
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  13. JohnThomas1

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    Liston is far too tight technically to be beaten by Ruddock. He's shown he can come back from big punches early and adapt rapidly and effectively. It's Cleveland Williams all over again, likely with a bit more duration.
     
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