Sonny Liston vs. Rocky Marciano, Who wins?

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  1. Canibus81

    Canibus81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Liston would of Ko'ed the Rock, bad style matchup for Marciano.
     
    Canibus81, Nov 25, 2010
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  2. combatesdeboxeo

    combatesdeboxeo Guest

    i am not sure, liston was not foreman and patterson was not marciano
     
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  3. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    Listons stops him in a few rounds.
     
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  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Very difficult to favour Rocky here.
     
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  5. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Thats what we need ,more insightful evaluation!:good
     
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  6. combatesdeboxeo

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    every opinion in every fantasy match is speculation so nobody might say a better point .
    anyway every opinion is better than yours , because you said nothing
     
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  7. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    I have to agree with the person who started the thread.


    I think this is a really bad match-up for Rocky
     
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  8. Boxinglad123

    Boxinglad123 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I disagree, Rocky had underrated defence, that crouching defence is effective. Rocky was powerful and tough with heart. If Rocky could survive the early storm which he always seemed to do then he had the heart to stop Liston somewhere over 15. If not then Liston by late ko, but I see Rocky winning it.
     
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  9. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Another interesting question...


    Would Liston fight this fight moving back?
     
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  10. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I have thought this one over many times, going back and forth. My last conclusion was that Rocky would get past that jab and have a good chance at breaking him down. It was possible to discourage Liston and power has a wonderful way of discouraging opposing fighters. As noted many times, Rocky applied his power all over the body so it's not like he has to wait for or work for perfect openings. Either way, I think this fight is a LOT closer than many are calling it. And if Liston were to win, Marciano would be far and away the best scalp on his entire resume.
     
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  11. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I understand why you made this post, but I don't agree with it. Liston wasn't a fast destroyer inspite of his decimation of Patterson. He was very capable of fighting at a consistent pace and proved this ability over and again, most notably against Machen and Clark. He retained his power for this reason so Marciano wouldn't just be dealing with an early storm - Liston would be a persistent danger, and the hammer could fall at any time. His style advantage here isn't limited to traditional puncher versus swarmer, he has excellence at all ranges and excelled at making space for his punches. In addition, he is going to be having at least moderate success with the heaviest jab seen in the division until peak Lewis, and perhaps ever.

    If you are bringing pressure against such a fighter, it better be exceptionally fast, a la Armstrong. You must keep your opponent smothered. Smothering a fighter with Liston's attributes is very hard even if you close the distance, but Marciano is not Frazier in this regard. I think the pressure is to slow.
     
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  12. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    As is so often the case in ATG fantasy match ups, the reverse is also true.
     
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  13. combatesdeboxeo

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    i am not sure because marciano was very durable but i will pick liston
     
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  14. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    You did not give an opinion.
    You talk a lot, because you like the sound of your own voice ,but you don't say much ,or at least nothing that's worth listening to.
     
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  15. combatesdeboxeo

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    every opinion in every fantasy match is speculation so nobody might say a better point .
    anyway every opinion is better than yours , because you said nothing
     
    combatesdeboxeo, Nov 25, 2010
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