Sonny Liston vs Rocky Marciano

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Sonny Liston vs Rocky Marciano

  1. Marciano KO

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  2. Marciano Points

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  3. Liston KO

    92 vote(s)
    77.3%
  4. Liston Points

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  5. Draw

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  1. JohnThomas1

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    Yeah no chance anyone in history is knocking him out, none whatsoever lol
     
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  2. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Not impossible but how do you go about guaranteeing this kind of thing?
     
  3. JohnThomas1

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    You use common sense i guess.
     
  4. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Who were these alleged sharks???
     
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  5. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    But Moore had so many fights, he inevitably had to fight "nobodies". Imagine if Mayweather had 225 fights. Alot of his resume would be filler
     
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  6. JohnThomas1

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    Well he was beaten by Holyfield, an ATG, straight up in his very first defense. Tyson was also racing toward a rematch and one he would have been solidly favored in. Buster didn't even get that far.

    The better question is why have you copied the Seamus avatar?
     
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  7. mcvey

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    That is true ,but if your ko resume includes debutees and wrestlers that has to be taken into account.
     
  8. mcvey

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    Absolutely nothing wrong with favouring some champions to ko Marciano, given he faced only a couple of punchers, both old men and both under 200lbs, and they knocked him down.
    Absolutely nothing wrong with favouring sharp shooting left jabbers like Holmes etc to tko Marciano ,given he was near to being stopped on cuts against both Charles and Simmons.
     
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  9. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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    Wrestlers?
     
  10. choklab

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    nothing wrong in “favouring”as opposed to “guaranteeing”. As I said it would be foolish to guarantee when the guy was never knocked out.

    was Walcott under 190lb? . I dont think so. Walcott was 196 and a half pounds. Archie matched Marciano at 188. You are getting far too hung up on weight. It is a mistake. Especially in an era where being heavier than 190 was seen as of no consequence at world level.

    The decades where it was possible to create a full division of 200lb plus elite heavyweights wasn’t there yet. So it misleading to make these contrasts before it was achieved.

    Again, you can favour these things but you cannot guarantee them. So far as I know The Worlds heavyweight championship has never changed hands over a cut. Seems the referees won’t do it. Recently Fury was badly cut defending the linear title. Nothing happened. So it’s rather inconsequential to pipe on about Rocky losing a title on cuts.
     
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  11. mcvey

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    Its reliably documented that the referees in both fights were considering stopping the fights.
     
  12. mcvey

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    Mike Di Biase
    Roy Shire
    Sterling Davis
    All wrestlers and none had boxed before.
     
  13. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    I think it’s a tribute to the inconsequential upstart known as Seamus.
     
  14. choklab

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    The Fury one?

    you are going out on a whim here if you want to guarantee the HW title changing hands on a cut. Seems No referee wants to go down in history as the first guy to stop a champ on cuts.
     
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  15. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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    Sterling Davis KO'd Jimmy Bivins before he fought Moore
     
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