Sonny Liston vs Rocky Marciano

You're trying to pull the wool over my eyes. Sterling Davis stopped Bivins, Charles, Harold Johnson and Oakland Billy Smith

 

Nothing to choose between Cockell and Valdes?
Cockell was stopped by Slade172lbs floored 5 times.
Ko'd by one ;left hook to the body by Aaron Wilson12-3-0.
Floored 3 times and stopped by 12lbs lighter Turpin .
Floored 8 times and stopped by Dave Whitlock.
Where are all the comparable ko losses to journeymen on Valdes sheet?

 

Nice one mate !

 

well Valdes was knocked out 5 times from almost 20 losing fights. And he was knocked down on a lot of the losing fights. I like his spirit because he always tried hard but…this guy dropped ball quite a bit. With every physical advantage he managed to lose to light heavyweights like Bob satterfield, Harold Johnson and Archie Moore. That was no disgrace at the time because 200lb elite heavyweights were not yet really a thing. Nino was a forerunner of the kind of heavyweight that might have benefited from the advances of modern sports science. In his own time he was lucky to get past elite light heavyweight’s. Let alone Marciano.

 

Floyd Patterson had a chance against Rocky.
His speed would bother the Rock. I think Rocky didn't really want Floyd.

 

I see Marciano losing to Williams. Too big and powerful and speedy. Luckily for Rocky they never fought.

 

Machen never used his right hand against Liston. It was injured so he fought Sonny with one hand.

 

Rocky would've been an easy fight for Liston. No man standing in front of Liston could've remained standing. Liston KO in three.

 

I believe the same thing tbh but don't let anyone on this forum see this. I think he'd meet a similar fate against the Ruddock, Brunos, etc.

 

I don't think Marciano's "pit bull", just attack, hit anywhere, even forearms style of fighting would be successful against Liston.

 

Williams fans would agree with you. He was either too injured or too young to ever lose a fight.

Rocky and Williams could have fought. Williams even fought on a Marciano card in an attempt to build up interest. Maybe you should check out what happened?

 

Charles was stopped 7 times, by;
Walcott
Marciano
Young JackJohnson
George Logan
Lloyd Marshall
John Holman
Donnie Fleeman.

Smith was stopped 9 times by;
Costello Cruz
Aaron Wade
Charles
Satterfield
Moore x2
Leonard Morrow
Paul Andrews
John Holman

Harold Johnson was stopped5 times by'
Mederos
Jacobs
Smith
Moore
Walcott

I've already shown Bivins was never stopped by Davis.
Not only were none of these men ever stopped by Davis ,none of them ever fought him.
Now there are two possibilities as to why you are making these silly claims.
1.You are drunk.
2.You are trolling.

 

As usual you haven't answered my question,in your usual dishonest manner you concentrated on Valdes losses to ranked fighters Here is an example of your spin.
"in almost 20 losing fights" Valdes lost 18 fights.
Three in Cuba when he was 17,19, and 20.
His other losses were to;
Moore x2
Machen x2
Baker x2
Alonzo Johnson
Liston
Satterfield
Miteff
Folley
McBride
Harold Johnson
Gilliam


I specifically asked you for his ko losses to journeymen.
1.You named ranked world class men.
2.You began waffling about his decision losses.
Valdes was stopped by;
Machen
Powell
Liston
And twice in Cuba when he was 17 and 20 years old.
Why would you give a like to MDWC's ridiculous claim that Wrestler Sterling Davis ko'd. Johnson
Bivins
Smith
Charles
? ?????
How asinine is that?
Have you any idea how frustrating and unrewarding it is to engage with you?

 

That's just something you've made up. No one thought the unknown Williams fighting on a Marciano undercard in 1953 was going to "build up interest" in a meeting between them.