Sonny Liston vs Sam Langford

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  1. DDDUUDDDEE

    DDDUUDDDEE Undisputed Ambien (taker) Full Member

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    Sonny ****s him up.
     
  2. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Liston by mid rounds stoppage.
     
  3. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Langford seems to have intimidated many of his opponents into submision, this despite being a head shorter than them.
     
  4. SonnyListonsJab

    SonnyListonsJab Active Member Full Member

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    Langford's best was behind him at the start of the series, and he was an empty shell in the second half.

    If Jersey Joe Walcott had fought Joe Louis 10 times he could probably have ended up something like 7-3 in the series, but it would not mean that Louis only won the first tow fights because he got 10 tries at it.[/QUOTE]


    Sam Langford beat Harry Wills for the 2nd time in 1916 after Wills had already beaten Sam Langford 3x, including the very first time they fought in 1914, when Sam was only 187lb and arguably near his prime.
     
  5. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Langford was certainly past his best when the series began. After he returned from Australia in 1913, he balooned in weight and started to put on lacklustre performences. It was being commented upon.

    The point is that the series was prety even early on, and only became lopsided in favour of Wills because Langford was going into the tank while Wills was still improving. By the end of the series it was widley thought that Wills was carrying Langford just to preserve his meal ticket.
     
  6. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Liston eventually gets him..no way langford stands up to Liston to hear the last bell.
     
  7. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    Call me delusional, but I don't think a Langford victory is unfeasible here. His chin is proven against men of Liston's size and bigger, and it was against good punchers like McVea and Wills.

    Another question is if Liston's chin can handle Langford's power for an extended period of time. Ali and Folley both hurt him in their fights, so Langford hurting Liston doesn't seem out of the question either.

    Would I favour him? Probably not, but this certainly isn't a Patterson-like scenario.
     
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  8. Larry Holmes1

    Larry Holmes1 New Member Full Member

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    No way in the world that this match up isn't a joke!
    Langford is good for his time but he is way too ancient to hang around with Liston.
    Sonny would have fu##ing kill him!!!
     
  9. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    Langford, despite being small, was still very slippery and powerful. He also carried 185lbs in the 1913 Jeannette footage well, and kept up a solid pace for 20 rounds.

    I see this being a good fight, but Liston likely wins it. Langford's struggle with good jabbers with a long reach (Wills, Fulton) will see him pay in this one.
     
  10. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    If Langford loses, it certainly wouldn't be due to any significant evolution in boxing skills. Langford probably looks better on film than Liston does. It's just not a style fight that's favourable towards him.
     
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  11. nyterpfan

    nyterpfan Active Member Full Member

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    Once again--Liston too strong and too skilled--wins by stoppage or KO in 8-10 rounds.
     
  12. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Langford always had problems with good jabbers eg Smith,Fulton,Liston beats him up with his telegraph pole jab.
     
  13. Larry Holmes1

    Larry Holmes1 New Member Full Member

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    Yeah and Jake Paul also looks good on film
    I think the sport of boxing already showed that you can't rate boxers baased on your eye test.
    The fact about Langford and his time in the sport is that the whole technique was different back then.
    Constant holding and hitting, losing balance on regular basis (except for Langford who had good balance) and using a completely different stance.
     
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  14. JohnThomas1

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    You'd have to be kidding. Liston looks fantastic on multitudes of clear film and certainly tighter than Langford.
     
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  15. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    A Langford victory is very unfeasible here.

    Landford's chin may have been proven against men Liston's size or bigger but none of them hit nearly as hard as Liston, and more importantly weren't nearly as skilled.

    Also, it's completely untrue that Folley hurt him. He had a brief rally in between knockdowns, that lasted all of a couple seconds. Only person who hurt Liston in his prime was Cleveland Williams, who you should've used instead of Folley.
     
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