Sonny Liston vs these 80's contenders

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  1. steve1990

    steve1990 Active Member Full Member

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    Trevor Berbick
    Pinklon Thomas
    Mike Weaver
    Tim Witherspoon
    Renaldo Snipes
    Gerry Cooney
    Michael Doakes
    Carl Williams
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    "In the lab", i'd pick him to beat all of them.

    In the real world, someone would pick him off, that's a horrible schedule.
     
  3. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Sonny was the better fighter. Put Sonny with them in a line, Who would I manage out of that bunch? Sonny. He is the best fighter with the best potential, no doubt about it. Championship Consistency.

    That is not to say the other guys would not be tricky or potential banana skins on a good day.
     
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  4. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Out of those only Thomas and witherspoon would be in with a decent shot. The rest would be battered and some wouldn't make it past first round.
     
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  5. Pugilist_Spec

    Pugilist_Spec Hands Of Stone Full Member

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    Williams would have a great shot if it wasn't for his tendency to keep his right low and be wide open for a left hook - which landed so many times, and knocked him out every time. Listons left hook might have been his best punch.

    Outside of him, I'd give Thomas and Spoon a shot, but wouldn't make anyone a favourite.
     
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  6. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    This is how I see it.
     
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  7. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    He's roll all of those in one off's. I'd give Page a better chance than any of them.
     
  8. lloydturnip

    lloydturnip Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Spoon when in the mood could do it and Thomas.the truth.could do.well if he can keep his chin out of harms way.page maybe.
     
  9. jowcol

    jowcol Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Eras guys, eras. Let the 1960 version of the above mentioned guys fight a 1960 Sonny. Let a 1980's Sonny fight them.
    Roll out the body bags boys. :)
     
  10. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Prime Liston beats each without much problem. Of the bunch only Dokes, on his best night, had the wheels and speed to cop a decision over Liston. All other get koed.
     
  11. JohnThomas1

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    Dokes didn't have the stamina to last against Liston. Once he matured physically he didn't really move that much.
     
  12. blackhercules

    blackhercules Active Member banned Full Member

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    Sonny is another one of these overrated old time fighters that idiots from the classic section love to build up. Liston beat 2 decent fighters in his career. 170 pound glass chin Floyd Patterson and slow plodding Cleveland Williams. Sonny was extremely crude. He could only throw basic combinations. He was only 6'0 210 pounds (despite one person on the classic sections saying he was 6'4 250). If you didn't fear Liston you took his heart. Witherspoon, Cooney would knock Liston out in less than 6 rounds. Dokes would probably win a decision. A healthy Thomas would probably beat him. I never watch any of Carl Williams fights. Maybe if Liston could catch glass chin Mike Weaver he could beat him.
     
  13. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Patterson scaled 189lbs and 194.5lbs for the Liston fights. Williams was neither slow or plodding. You always make these sweeping erroneous statements, similar to Tunney being 170lbs I can only conclude it's an attempt to provoke.
     
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  14. GordonGarner65

    GordonGarner65 Active Member Full Member

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    I always thought of Liston as a little like Foreman, if you took him deep you had a better chance. At his peak i think he beats most of these guys fairly quick.
    Pink Thomas on his best night would be a good fight.Pink had a good heavy jab and he wouldnt be backed down. Witherspoon , again on his best night would be a difficult opponent for almost anyone.
    One guy not mentioned here, Tony Tubbs at his best was durable and an excellent boxer, fast hands and one of the best at catching a punch on his gloves and countering. Sonny may get frustrated if everytime he threw something, something came back. It all depends on getting through the first few rounds and getting a foothold in the fight. Some guys on that list ain't gonna make it.
    Liston was like early Foreman and Tyson , they traded heavily on their aura of invincibility, which to their credit they had built. Once that had been punctured however,the cracks widened at a rate.
     
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  15. joebeadg

    joebeadg Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Spoon could beat him maybe, none of the others