Sonny Liston vs Tim Witherspoon, both prime.

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  1. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    Sonny Liston vs Tim Witherspoon, both prime. Can The Big Ugly Bear tame the Terrible one?
     
  2. CharlieFirpo85

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    Tim is kinda underrated...but Sonny aswell. I favor Liston. He has the advantage on power, reach and punch selection. But it could be a lot work for Sonny, cause Witherspoon is a very good allround fighter... very ballanced with better defensive skills.
     
  3. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    Agreed, Tim Witherspoon has a cross armed defense and a very underrated overhand right hand. Sonny Liston did have a long stiff left jab and also a very underrated left hook. I too favor a Liston win possibly on points, much the same way as the victory over Eddie Machen on Sept 7 1960, also on points.
     
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  4. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Liston should be favored. But if Tim is well trained and motivated it could be a very tough night
     
  5. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not saying Tim would win but he could furnish Sonny with a very interesting evening.
     
  6. Blofeld

    Blofeld Active Member Full Member

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    Every time I watch Tim fight I wonder why he didn't take over from Holmes as the HW of the 80s. Maybe he just got in his head too much? But either way I fancy his chances, he was quick, had an excellent jab, crushing overhand right and apart from Bonecrusher 2 he could take a punch. I maybe wrong but I think he has the edge in speed over Sonny and I don't think he would be intimidated, after all he fought Larry Holmes in his 16th fight and ran him close. If he had pushed hard for the final few rounds he may have won and I rate Holmes above Liston so if his head is in the game I see him squeaking a close decision, maybe in a surprisingly tactical battle.
     
  7. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Liston was too powerful and too good a boxer to allow Tim more than 5 rounds imo.

    I do think Tim would have made the rounds before his demise quite interesting, especially if he applied the techniques he used against Holmes to nullify the jab. The problem is, though Sonny's jab was a bit slower than Larry's it was a total day-ruiner when it came to sheer power. Larry got through and messed up Tim's victory, Liston's would get through less but be even more daunting when landing.

    I also see Tim's overhand providing some quite interesting moments.

    Liston's adaptibility is well documented, by the 5th round Tim would be getting hit with shots he'd never have experienced as a pro before or after. I don't see 'Spoon going down for the count, rather getting hit with such nasty, significant punches as to lose his legs and have the ref end it.
     
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  8. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I see something like 7-5 Liston, but I consider Sonny a master boxer with dreadnought power. It's a high praise towards Tim.
     
  9. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    I always wanted Tim Witherspoon as WBA Champion to fight WBC Champion Mike Tyson in that title unification match in March 1987, it would have been a good fight. Instead Bone Hugger Smith fought Tyson, and hugged Tyson all night.
     
  10. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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    I favor Liston but a fully motivated Witherspoon would be a handful
     
  11. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Gotta go with Sonny. Def. UD with a decent chance of an inside the distance victory.

    Tim will still be tough of course and give Sonny some moments of pause.

    Ironically, I always thought young Tim (and even now) bore a reasonable facial resemblance to Liston - perhaps also I see some similarities in build but not as much as the face.
     
  12. Fergy

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    This isn't a easy one imo for either man.
    Both heavy handed, excellent chins and savvy.
    I lean toward Liston but look how close TW came to beating Holmes.
     
  13. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    I still remember that ninth round of the Holmes vs Witherspoon title bout in April 1983, Holmes was definetely shaken by Tim Witherspoon.
     
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  14. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Same here Richard. Was a good fight pal.
    I'm sure Tim remembers it well too.
     
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  15. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    You know Fergy, The fight that impressed me was Tim Witherspoon's TKO 11 of Frank Bruno on July 19 1986 in London, England, Tim took out Frank with that overhand right hand in front of Bruno's mother.
     
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