Sonny Liston vs. Vitali Klitschko

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  1. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    You obviously don’t understand the difference between their respective era’s, and why you would inherently expect their records to look different.

    Fighters from Liston’s era had shorter amateur careers, were thrown in against seasoned opponents earlier, and fought more frequently.

    If a fighter had their 0 intact back then, it was taken as a sign that something was wrong.
     
  2. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Absolute nonsense. Explain 49-0 Marciano.
     
  3. brb

    brb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    1) Lewis refused a rematch that he said he would give to VK.
    2) It's DOCUMENTED that LL was going to have multiple fights after Vitali.
     
  4. brb

    brb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'll ask this question to you McGrain since Janitor can't answer it.

    How would Liston deal with Vitali when VK is better:

    1) Managing distance.
    2) Harder puncher than Williams.
    3) Better defensively.
    4) Will wear Sonny down with any clinches as he is about 40(!) pounds heavier.
    5) Countering.
     
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  5. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Is this post tongue in cheek and I'm just too dense to see it?

    If not, it's convenient you left out that Johnson also had an 81" reach and was viewed in a much higher light than Boswell. The gap from Boswell to Lennox is wider than the one between Johnson and Vitali if you really want to split hairs.
     
  6. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    when indeed.

    until then...


    and below, observe kliturd self destructing once again.
     
  7. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    This thread is a porch light for moron moths.
     
  8. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Training to fight a man who is a shifty, fast, light hitting, in and out boxer who is not strong inside, a man who is 2 inches shorter than yourself is vastly different to preparing for one who boxes from distance ,one who is very strong inside ,and has good power,a great chin ,coupled with a 2 inch height advantage.

    That was Lewis's problem to solve.


    Vitali was training to fight an undefeated 21-0-0 up and comer a 6'3" boxer with a good jab and a dangerous right hand, not too dissimilar to Lewis in style.
    Vitali had been assured he was the next challenger to face Lewis in December ,of course this would fly out the window should he lose to Boswell, bearing this in mind, is it likely that Vitali took things easy in training ,knowing there was so much at stake?

    To answer your question,yes you are too dense.
     
  9. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    No it isn't.Show me your sources for this statement.
     
  10. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    No, that's the bash Dempsey thread.
     
  11. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Vitali did not hit harder than Williams.
     
  12. Foxy 01

    Foxy 01 Boxing Junkie banned

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    Are you trying to claim the top Kleechko nut huggers spot on ESB from Auntie Bug? ( uncletermite )

    Only he quoted Manny Steward as saying in late 2002 / early 2003

    Doesn't sit very well with your ludicrous claim of multiple fights after Vits, who quits does it?
     
  13. brb

    brb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Here's the link stating that he would fight Vitali again:

    http://articles.latimes.com/2003/jun/22/sports/sp-plaschke22

    I'll find the link where he said he was going to fight a few times before the Vitali fight.

    You're getting destroyed.
     
  14. Foxy 01

    Foxy 01 Boxing Junkie banned

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    I think you are destroying yourself if you are naive enough to think Lewis is the only fighter ever to say one thing, and do another.:patsch
     
  15. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    I would want Liston to win this fight because I don't enjoy Klitchkos style of fighting even though it was absolutely effective. All fighters rely on cashing in on their advantages but nobody quite like the Klitchkos. Sonny used his advantages perfectly but he also came through the Williams fights fighting like a S.O.B and that's how I like my champions. When all else fails have a fight. I just think Sonny won't have as much of the advantages he was used to so I lean toward Klichsko here although I would root for Sonny.