Sonny Liston vs. Vitali Klitschko

I am pretty much of the same mind on this.

Wlad has rounded up all the key contenders of his era, and is just sifting through the best of the rest.

The only thing that can enhance his legacy now, is if he beats somebody who goes on to do something significant after he retires.

There will be the usual pot luck on that.

 

I agree with you that the line of thinking is a problem, but it is also the reality.

Short of the media boycotting titles or at the very least putting them in a category below championships titles will always be used to hype fights.

Look at Holyfield v Lewis. In theory it is a lineal defence for Lewis against his highest ranked contender. But in reality it was a total unification for all the marbles. Exactly the same for Leonard v Hearns.

Should this be the case? No. But it is the case definitely. Just look at Golovkin v Lemieux tonight.

 

We've got to enjoy that rugged handsomeness while we still can, as tonight may be the last night he's got it. The $50 is a bargain price for Lemieux's male modeling "going out of business" sale.

The actual fights are free.

 

Did Vitali ever lose to a guy on points? He rarely gave up any rounds against much better opposition.

Vitali was much older and fought against better guys and won.

VK bounces way too many blows off Liston's head for this not to be a TKO.

 

BTW - Liston was a sucker for uppercuts. CW hit him with some.

Vitali would take advantage of this ala Danny Williams.

 

He might have done, if he actually knew how to throw an uppercut!

 

The UC he threw against Danny seemed effective to me.

 

You mean that he actually threw one, and on top of that it was effective against Danny Williams?

 

vitd has done nothing to justify this level of matchup. hes a minor titlist.

 

So was Liston.

 

huh? how is undisputed champion a minor titlist?

maybe on planet K, undisputed is minor and minor is undisputed as long as you got klitshcko in your name. BUt I am referring to real life.

 

Minor as in he had 1 title defense. He beat one fighter in heavyweight title fights. How should his reign be viewed as anything but minor?

Sonny won his title in 1962. Of course he was undisputed. I'm not sure how that changes that he had a brief reign an a .500 record in title fights.