Sonny Liston would KO Wladimir Klitschko like he did KO Cleveland Williams

No. You're definitely selling Liston short. Liston in his prime was faster, threw combos better, and was more powerful than Peter.

No, Mercer wasn't in his prime, and had none of his prime speed. Mercer didn't have Liston's power or jab to begin with, and he just wasn't in the same class as Liston. Mercer also lost alot of his punch Resistance with age. I don't agree with this comparison at all.

 

This thread makes literally no sense and it deserves all the ******ation it's attracted.

 

Was Haye a threat in that fight? He was shocking, he has know heavyweight legacy whatsoever. Make your minds up about the size difference.Would you expect Wlad to fight different against Liston? Who some on here say wouldn't have a chance against Wlad.

 

Yeah, if Wlad is gunshy like he is against Haye then he will get knocked out. Wlad's jab would be neutralized imo by Liston's, that would be the determining factor

 

Wlad kos Ali wow Ive heard it al now

 

It is sound practice in boxing, never to bet something you can't aford to loose.

 

Wlad has the tools to beat Liston and vice versa. This
could be a battle of the jabs, bu Wlads height could play
a factor. Listons reach and shear power make the difference for me
though. Liston would surpride wlad with his reach, and eventually
find a home for his devastating left hook. Does wlad have the power
to stop Liston? Yes. Liston ko 8 via a few left hooks and power punch
onslaught. Wlad leads cards 5 to 2 before getting stopped

 

Liston would beat the **** out of anyone not called Clay IMO

 

Was Haye perceived as a threat before the fight? You bet your ass he was! Can't retrospectively downgrade a fighter because of how his opponent made him look on the night in question.

 

If Liston was faster it wasn't by much. I'm not selling Liston short, I know what he was good at, and why he's highly rated, and I'm not saying he was worse than Peter because he wasn't. I'm saying the things which Peter did to cause problems for Wlad in their first fight are not necessarily the things that Liston could do to cause him problems.

Of course the Mercer that Wlad fought wasn't as good as the best Sonny Liston, but there are stylistic and physical similarities between the two, which is why I made the comparison in the first place. Mercer's jab was very underrated. It was fast, powerful, and ramrod straight, and on the right night it could cause anyone problems, as it cased Lennox problems. It certainly caused Wlad a few problems early in their fight, as I would expect Liston's jab to. As for Mercer's punch resistance that simply wasn't in question that night. He took a horrible beating that Liston would never have been able to take.

 

Like he beat the **** out of Eddie Machen and Leotis Martin?

 

I agree. A lot of times these hard ramrod jabs like Liston's and Foreman's can cause quicker, more athletic fighters a lot of problems, especially when they're thrown with as much frequency and good timing as either of the above could do. Comeback Foreman's jab caused all sorts of problems for Morrison, Mercer's jab caused problems for Lennox, as did Bruno's. I can see Liston disrupting Wlad's rhythm, and possibly causing him to cut up or bruise which would throw a nice spanner into the works. Wlad would have to fight a bit out of character to get the win here, I think, be a bit more willing to let his hands go and not be afraid to get hit (which he is capable of doing at times). As for the power and chin factor, I actually think if any fighter is going to get downed by a single punch it's going to be Liston not Wlad. A Liston stoppage would be more along the lines of a battering and bludgeoning mid to late rounds TKO, a la Brewster, Purrity.

 

Wlad's chin is glass compared to Liston's, I think if Liston connects solidly in the opening rounds and starts fast he would stop Wlad