Sonny Liston's Age

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  1. Richard M Murrieta

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    I would have asked him why he did not fight Floyd Patterson, or Ingo.
     
  2. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    LOL. And who hit hardest, Moore or Walcott??
     
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  3. Richard M Murrieta

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    That too, Lol.
     
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  4. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is very plausible.
     
  5. Entaowed

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    "Not really backed by anything but supposition" & ":could have been about anything-absolute anything" are the key statements here.
    Liston was born in the early 1930's. The evidence seems overwhelming, & we have beat it to death. Unless...

    He *himself* stole the identity of being born then.
    because nobody would be likely to believe the Real Story.
    And really Charles "Sonny" Liston is approximately that man's *deep breath*....Great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great (Times an even 20 "greats") GRANDFATHER!

    You see, the *Real* Sonny Liston was the very first, I mean *original* early man that evolved from Homo Erectus into an archaic version of our very species, Homo Sapien Sapien.
    Science-the fossil & genetic evidence from DNA: tells us that would be over 200,000 years ago!
    That would account for his unusually heavy & wide bone structure & disproportionately long arms, an 11.5" "ape factor".

    AND it would account for the various claims of Liston some of you have cited through Human History.
    Oh, some could have also been a relative who was almost his spitting image...
    But more frequently it was likely the Real McCoy. Er, the True Liston.

    Who due to being the exceedingly rare first member of a new human subspecies, has a heretofore undocumented unique genetic resilience, so he ages either at a miniscule fraction of a normal human...
    Or perhaps more likely has another unique mutation where he stopped aging when he was 48!

    YES that would account for his prematurely aged appearance.

    AND it seems likely that crude caveman looking dudes Valuev, Chuvalo & Tex Cobb are his descendents-among the first light skinned brethren selected to suck up vitamin D from sunlight impoverished areas-just look at their caveman bones, crude craniums & primitive facial features!
    Not to mention their unholy ability to absorb punishment-why they are Liston's (maybe half) proverbial Brothers from Another Mother! Someone should look into McCall too.

    It is all coming together I tell you!
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    Now we need to see if we can account for the mystery of the alleged death of Charles Sonny Liston.
    Where did he actually go in 1970, & which rough facsimile (in superfiscial appearance) of a descendant really is buried in his grave?

    We may need a separate thread to Fully Explore & Uncover This Mystery.
    More imposing & formidable even that who is "the real killer" instead of O.J.
    Or how the last U.S. national election was illegitimate-& all real evidence of any actual crime-was completely disguised.

    For Surely Such an incredibly Resilient Specimen as Liston... Can never die.
     
    Last edited: Jun 2, 2021
  6. Kamikaze

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    Un
    Underrated post.
     
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  7. White Bomber

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  8. Bokaj

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    This.
     
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  9. robert ungurean

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    I'd say closer to 40 than 35 when he fought Ali the first time.
     
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  10. newurban99

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    Gil Clancy on Liston: "Did you ever see him in a locker room? He could choke a horse!"
     
  11. hhascup

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    According to Paul Gallender, who wrote a book about Liston, claims that he was born in 1917 and also fought under the name of Sailor Liston. The ONLY thing is that he was a WHITE MAN!

    I put this photo on BoxRec - https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/79851

    I have been debating Paul about this for sometime now!

    PS - He died in 1935!
     
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  12. swagdelfadeel

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    Man if you read all that, more power to you :lol:
     
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  13. Saintpat

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    In the post-Ali II portion of his career, Sonny fought in some venues where they might have actually allowed horses in the locker room.
     
  14. KasimirKid

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    I think you are both right. I always suspected that Sonny was actually about five years younger than most people think. This proves it. I believe that the Sonny Liston who later won the heavyweight title is actually the reincarnation of Sailor Liston. After the Sailor died in 1935, he was re-born into a black family just a few days later. So Mr. Gallender is correct about Liston's original date of birth, and you are correct that the Sonny who later won the heavyweight title was a black man. It's simple logic.
     
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  15. White Bomber

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    Gallender said that Liston was born in 1919, not 1917