Sonny Liston's place in history.

Sonny Liston is the most hysterically over rated fighter on this forum, even more over rated than Marciano.

Liston folded tent twice aka quit, against the only modern, big , skilled heavyweight he met in the Ring, he never had the mental make up to go out on his shield.

Undeniable fact.

 

Motivated Liston is a top 10 ATG.....( second fight with Clay was a fraud )

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKFZ0nGjT2gyt

 

Don't you dare disrespect the Father Of Boxing by calling him by that name. His name is Muhammad Ali. Respect Ali or quit being a boxing fan because you're a disgrace. I don't understand how you can be on Liston's side when he cheated in the first fight. The only fraud was Liston himself. He made you clueless people think the fight was fixed by staying on the canvas for more seconds instead of getting up. You just don't understand Ali's greatness. Plain and simple.

 

I don't count Liston's losses to Ali because he was up against the greatest boxer of all time. The real question you need to ask yourself is does Liston deserve his place amongst the greatest heavyweights? I say that because he cheated in some fights and that tarnished his boxing career. He cheated against Ali, Zora Folley, etc. He may not be a hundred percent to blame because of working for the boxing mafia and they probably told him to cheat.

 

I find it funny you find boxing facts to be laughable.

 

No....your "facts"are laughable...

 

Only because you can't handle the facts. Your opinion is a joke.

 

H2H he is comfortably inside my top ten.

 

This is a much better summation of my basic point of view than I could write myself, so I just second this.

 

You remember Bob Steele and know that I remember him!

Nobody could handle Battling Bob in his prime.

 

Liston is one of the very best for me.