Sonny Liston's shoulder injury.

Yes,despite my own exhaustive efforts to make BoxingFan2002 see the light
I have to hand to Pugguy the award of making the best efforts to
educate this rather stubborn young man. !

 

But coming back to his corner in the 6th, after a clash of heads, Marciano complained, "There's something in my eyes. They're burning." When he came to his corner after the 7th round, Marciano said, "My eyes are getting worse. Do something! I can't see!"

"We suspected it was some kind of medication used on Walcott," Allie Columbo, Marciano's cornerman, said. "But we didn't know what to do about it. We just kept trying to wash the stuff out of his eyes, but they seemed to be getting worse all the time."

"What're they doing? What're they doin' to Rocky?" Al Weill, his manager, yelled at the referee. Then referring to Walcott he demanded, "Check his gloves, check his gloves! They've got something on his gloves!" Rather than check the gloves, referee Taggert ordered Weill to sit down and shut up or he'd have him removed from the arena. On the TV broadcast version of the fight you can hear the exchange clearly, yet Taggert claimed afterwards he wasn't aware of any vision problem Marciano was having, nor did anyone ask him to check Walcott's gloves.

"It seemed like Walcott had some stuff between his neck and shoulder where I rested my head when we got in close. Every time we came together, my eyes would start smarting again," Rocky later said. But Hall of Fame promoter Sam Silverman said, "They blinded him in his own corner. I was sitting ringside, right next to them. I think it was poor work, a mistake by his own handlers, that blinded Rocky. Whatever they used on his head got into his eyes."

If so, the substance was a caustic mix called "dynamite". It would burn the skin, closing a wound during a fight. Afterwards, the damaged skin tissue needed to be removed by a surgeon to prevent a bad scar. Dynamite could cause permanent eye injury if it got in the eyes. From the 7th through the 10th rounds Marciano was virtually blind. Some said medication, the "dynamite" used to seal the head wound he received from an accidental butt or to seal a wound on Walcott, did it. Others said something was put on Walcott's gloves. Whatever it was, for those 4 rounds Marciano was unable to see Walcott and took a terrible beating.

"Walcott had the legs of a twenty-year-old," Silverman said. "He was having the best fight of his career. He must've put Rocky into two hundred head-on collisions. It was one of the worst lickings I ever seen a guy get...The poor kid couldn't see. He was getting the **** punched out of him."

Rocky said, "I couldn't see Walcott at all...couldn't see the punches coming. The only time I felt safe was when we were touching, so I kept following after him to get in close." Walcott would later say, "If there was something in his eyes, it had to be medication."

Rocky's corner washed his eyes out between rounds, dousing them with ice water, and slowly they began to clear. By the 10th round he was able to see Walcott and by the 11th his eyes were clear. In films of the fight you can see Marciano rubbing his eyes with his gloves every time Walcott clinches with him and in still photos his bloodshot eyes are obvious. Ali would suffer the same fate against Liston over a decade later.Sources:
Rocky Marciano: Biography of a First Son by Everett M. Skehan
International Boxing Hall of Fame Official Record Book
Ring Magazine.
It's there in black and white.
Why waste your time debating with a fool?

 

Boxing Fan’s master plan is to lobotomise all of us. A real Dr Evil he is. Mwahaha!

He’s fooled us into thinking we’re winning - meanwhile, we are losing brain cells on daily basis via his long term design.

The Big Chief will soon be mobilising with the pillow to put us all out of our zombie misery.

 

Ah no my friend, you’ve done the hard yards - unfortunately, you can lead a fool to the fountain of knowledge (as you’ve done) but you still can’t make him think.

 

You know the itch Mac. No rhyme or reason to it but every now and then you’ve gotta give it a good scratch.

 

Alas mate,you might well be right.Perhaps it's time I abandoned my
mission to make BoxingFan2002 admit the truth.This does seem to
have been going on for too long.

 

Too true good Sir, ...too true.

 

Which evidence would be enough to satisfy you?
I think none since you would try to argue again because it is your hero legacy what we are talking about.

No support for Machen claims?
There are not support for any claims according to you, Liston fans.
Machen and Folley are liars, Ali is crazy so no Liston blinded no one...that is your stupid logic.

Rocky did not show any kind of eye discomfort on film and so did not Machen, but does that make them liars?

 

You mean Liston fans have phobia of truth because they will attack anyone who dares to say something that hurts their hero reputation?

 

Where?
Show me the quote where Ali said that Liston was one of the greatest HWs of all time?
Ali only named few great heavyweights including Johnson, Tunney, Louis and Marciano saying that Marciano and Louis are the GOATS heavyweights.

 

Marciano never stated he was blinded until the fight ended, after the fight he said that Walcott corner blinded him on purpose.
He said only that his eyes are burning but never showed any discomfort on film like Machen, does that make him a liar?

 

Welcome to the Lobotomy thread - for those who (for whatever reason - no questions asked) feel the need to relieve themselves of a few billion brain cells.

Please take a seat…Dr BF2002 will be with you shortly……due to the permanent reduction of your intellectual capacities (forthcoming), please ensure that you have a driver to take you home after the procedure.

Please also note that Dr BF2002 works without anaesthesia.

He firmly believes in the motto: No pain, no gain.

 

Please refer to McVey's post which proves beyond doubt that you are lying.

 

Any casual enquiry on the 'net will give you the answer.