Sonny v Jeff's challengers?

No.

 

Yes.

 

Yeah, that's just sloppy input by the editor. Couldn't take the time to find a more likely "George Washington" on the list so he just clicked on the first one he found. Highly unlikely that it's the same guy.

In fact I just changed it to a more likely candidate until I can research it more closely.

 

Where is Seamus.. Seamus ADMIT IT.. Most of jeffries foes including Jeffries himself waxes Liston inside 5 right? Afterall, older is better!!!

 

Although I think Liston any where near his best beats Sharkey like a drum, Tom was quite fast as well as tenacious, and that is relevant to his success against Corbett.
With Liston's reach and jab, though, Corbett would have had more difficulty reaching him that he had reaching 1900 Jeffries.

 

Do you even read this board? Don't you understand that the LACK of height is the advantage, not excess height. Liston was shackled by being overly tall. He tried his best to conceal his excess height it but Sharkey would sniff this out in a New York second and attack this vulnerability.

Plus, Sharkey had far superior calves. The calf, and more specifically the half calf and outer anterior calf, are where 80% of punching power to the breadbasket originate. Science.

 

Actually, Sharkey has his hands up fairly high for the era. More around chest high than anything. But I agree that Liston chews him up pretty badly:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zu0Xdso6Z0

 

I think I agree that Ali hit harder and had better durability. I am not sure that there was as much as a speed difference as what is accepted. Either way, both were a lot faster than Sonny, and this was their biggest advantage over Sonny.

Looking at it this way, if you were going to try to beat Sonny, your best chance would be to be a smaller fighter, lighter on your feet, much faster and able to beat him to the punch, capable of taking no chances and fighting very defensively and on the move, so you couldn t be hit. This is what Ali was, and this was the best way to beat Liston. Corbett has as good a chance to do the same thing as anyone else does, and there are probably only a handful of guys who can say that.

I agree that if Sonny lands he will win easily. But that is the case with most fighters he fights. And he has a much better chance of landing against most other fighters because they will stand still and be there to be hit. Corbett (even old corbett) willl not do that, at least not early in the fight. Just because he doesnt hit as hard as ali doesnt mean he cant be equally as elusive and frustrating for Liston, as Ali was. If he is lucky, his chin wont get tested.

the longer the fight, the better chance liston has, because Corbett might throw caution to the wind, but balance this by the fact that i would have thought Liston as a general rule would gas as we go into the later rounds.

I think that stylistically, Jim Corbett is the perfect fighter to beat sonny liston. IN fact, it is even possible that Jim was the classier fighter (though i would not touch that argument now). Yes he was a lot smaller than the Ali that outclassed Sonny, although i think it worth noting that he wasnt any smaller than the Marty Marshall that beat Sonny.

Contrary to popular belief, this would actually be a much closer than expected fight. Certainly, Jim does a hell of a lot better than Floyd did. Whether he does enough,noone knows.

As an interesting side issue, i think that Corbett might have had the anchor punch in his arsenal. So if he lands it, would it be enough to finish Liston?

 

Both lean back.

Both fight at long range and stay out of trouble.

Both utilise speed and footwork.

Both have low hands.

both like to wrestle and smother their opponent by holding the back o ftheir head.

What is it you dont agree with?