Sooo, Ali in his Prime beats ALL Other Heavies?

How many modern skilled heavyweights did Joe Louis fight? How many black heavyweights did Joe Louis fight period? I typed heavyweights so don't mention 180 pound guys. Larry Holmes gets a round robin? Lol why? He couldn't even beat a old faded Ken Norton. He flat out refused to fight Foreman back in the 70's. Who did Larry Holmes beat who was considered great? Renaldo Snipes?

 

Holmes fought Norton with a torn left biceps which affected his best weapon his jab. It was Foreman who didn't fancy the job against Holmes.
More ignorant trolling from our newest, and hopefully temporary member.

 

hmm modern skilled well.

how many HWs of that era did he fight? its null argument.

larry holmes i said perhaps.

 

Yeah it is null because you say so right? Because Joe Louis fought a bunch of a 180 pound fighters who would be considered club fighters by today's standards it mean Joe Louis was a all time great? No it means Louis was good doing his era which doesn't equate to being good in later eras. No 6'1 195 to 200 pound guy is going to beat modern sized and modern skilled heavyweights like Lennox Lewis, Riddick Bowe, George Foreman, the Klitschko brothers ect.

Typical clueless casual fan. I guess because you heard Burt Sugar say Joe Louis was a all time great and you believed it right?

 

How many modern skilled heavyweights were available for Louis to fight?
How many big black heavyweights were contenders when he was champion?

Up until the modern era Louis had the highest weight average among his opponents for title defences.
What was your user name the last time you were banned here?

 

Who cares if there were modern skilled and modern sized guys for him to fight? That is like saying a runner from 1900 could beat Usian Bolt in the 100 meters. The point is casual Joe Louis didn't fight any modern skilled heavyweights. The point is Joe Louis didn't fight any black heavyweights who were over 200 pounds. The point is no real boxing fan would assume Joe Louis could compete with modern heavyweights. The point is Joe Louis was a 195 pound 200 pound fighter. The point is no guy that small who stands right in front of their opponent would beat a modern sized and modern skilled heavyweight .

Didn't somebody else already typed that? Lol the same thing over and over again. Every time somebody makes a fool out of you casual fans your response is "That person must be a returning banned member" Grow up child. I know you want to think you are cool on a internet boxing forum but you aren't. I know you want to think you know about boxing because you like to look at grown men without their shirts on. But you beyond clueless and are just typical sad little casual fan who thinks he knows what he is talking/typing about.

 

so u think my argumetn doesnt count. does that mean your argument, which is the mirror reflection of mine, is also null?

 

You have no argument clueless casual. I will type this and then I am done with you. Joe Louis was a 195 pound to 200 pound guy. He fought mostly guys who were smaller than him. The guys who fought who were bigger weren't modernly skilled. Joe Louis had a glass chin and couldn't even handle light punching guys like Billy Conns power. Joe Louis was a guy who stood right in front of his opponent. He had no footwork. There is no 195 pound glass chin guy like Louis who is going to beat Mike Tyson, George Foreman , Lennox Lewis. Either Klitschko brother and others. Joe Louis fought so many bums during this title reign that they were called the "Bum of the Month Club" Joe Louis actually fought a guy who was 3-3 in a title fight. If you believe this made him good enough to compete with modern skilled and modern sized heavyweights then good for you. I am done wasting my time typing to casuals like you.

 

The highlight so far is Childers claiming James Toney was naturally bigger than Rocky Marciano.

 

Lol right then you realize I never typed anything such thing. Nice try though. Toney was a natural 170 pound fighter and Marciano was 185. What I did type is James Toney never beat a elite heavyweight who was in their primes. If you want to troll then be a better troll kid.

 

You said "Lol and all of thees fighters were naturally bigger than Marciano. . . .", in reference to a list including Roy Jones Jr. and James Toney.

 

so if someone fights against guys who are smaller than them their resume is invalid/greatly weakened?

Lets see, that means you treat Wlad K, Vitali K Lennox, Joshua, Wilder, Fury ,the Russian Monster as having invalid/weakened records too, since almost everyone they fought was smaller too (Russian monster made it 100% midgets).

Basically if you are advancing that argument you are nullifying your own argument.

the guys in modern times werent trad skilled.

 

Um George Foreman was 76 - 5 , Lewis was what 40-2. Mike Tyson won most of his fights. There is no guy who became heavyweight champion who had a losing record. But any case if Ali would fight the top 20 modern heavyweights of all time he wouldn't have a winning record. He would lose to most of them unless he got lucky.