Soooo we have it..pac only agreed to a 7 day cutoff

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  1. thesandman

    thesandman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Never mentioned Pac being a politician then?
     
  2. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    Being a politician isn't apart of his PERSONAL life.

    I could say he cheats on his wife, so that makes him a dishonest person. I don't, though. This isn't no women studies.
     
  3. D50

    D50 Active Member Full Member

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    Roach is on record saying that after Manny gives blood he loses him for about 4 days and then he's back on track. Whether anyone believe that or not is up to them, but it fits the "excuse" that blood drawing bothers Pac. If you look at May/Mosley 24/7, it was bothering Mosley as well. And the Pac/Margo 24/7 shows that Pac already has enough distractions. It could very well be the straw that breaks the camel's back. Of course I predict the load would be alleviated a bit by a move back to 147.

    The last week of training won't be as intense, and if it really does take Pac 4 days after drawing blood to get back to mentally 100%, a 7 day cutoff really is not unreasonable, and I think it's the way this particular issue should end. Whatever doubt that Pac is on anything within that cutoff is trivial at best (regardless of how loudly and often those people say otherwise), and it guarantees that Pac won't have been significantly affected mentally on the day of the fight. It's a fitting balance.

    That's why I really believe it's about the money. Floyd may have said some idiot things, but I think the man's a warrior in his own way. There are few real boxers out there that I'll call a coward because it takes guts to get into the ring, period. Say what you will about how shot Mosley was, a shot Mosley is still a threat to your health, and Floyd went on the OFFENSIVE in that fight. He's just calculating risk vs. reward and knows he has more to lose with a near-prime Pacquiao, so he wants more compensation for the added risk.
     
  4. THIBB

    THIBB Active Member Full Member

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    pacman looks real bad cuz he stilll doesnt wanna take the test. if 7 days isnt such abig deal and there arent any ped that get out that fast he should take it up until the fight!
     
  5. TheBling

    TheBling Active Member Full Member

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    everyone just shut the **** up
     
  6. causality

    causality Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How did you know for sure Pac cheats on his wife? Did crackfather officially wrote it on the *****'s manual?
     
  7. StrawberrySam

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    arum and pac are now proven liars! THEY DID NOT ACCEPT THE TEST!! I repeat!! PAC DID NOT ACCEPT the test and this is clear evidence, cut offs are not random, floyd specifically required OSDT which is RANDOM UP TO THE DAY OF THE FIGHT. 7 DAYS is enough to get you PED UP! People just don't know it, but there could be PEDS that affect you for a short frame of time, PEDS that are not yet out of the market..

    Stories like this fuel my heart with anger, these people are clearly destroying boxing with their lies, shame on you pac, arum, roach and these *******s:-(
     
  8. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  9. jansby mac

    jansby mac Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm assuming that anyone that's lying fuel your heart with anger.
     
  10. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Roach is also on the radio talking about the great 9 rounds of sparring he got from Pac the day after he did the blood test for Hatton. So it was "bothering" Mosley, but the entire Olympics seem to do it and set world records just fine. Whether you know anything about the subject you are bloviating about is pretty clear.

    The point is that Pac acted as though he agreed and didn't. A lie. Just like he lied that 14 days wasn't offered the first time, admitted it was, and STILL fought Clottey. A cut off removes the USADA from the testing. Period.

    What do you know about money? If it was about money he would not have agreed for the first fight at 50/50 so readily. He WILL get a rematch if he loses and get an amazing amount of money AGAIN so losing to a clean fighter might actually work out for him. It is about his personal SAFETY.
     
  11. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And that is word from Strawberry Sam. Single handidly bringing sexy back. :lol:
     
  12. whoupicking?

    whoupicking? Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :rofl
     
  13. D50

    D50 Active Member Full Member

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    Good points. I never heard that radio interview though. As for the Olympics statement, that's a different matter. Olympic boxing is run differently from professional prize fighting and officially has to consist entirely of so-called "amateurs." Not that I claim to know the difference between amateurs and pros, but it is what it is.

    I don't know what fighting Clottey has to do with the overall argument though. Pac wanted to fight in March and Clottey was the best available Welterweight at the time since everyone else was scheduled for upcoming fights and Haiti didn't happen yet. I know that the 14 days was offered and refused by Team Pac, but I never heard of Manny saying it wasn't offered. Seems to me pretty much everyone knew it was offered.

    Yeah, totally forgot that the 50/50 split was agreed upon early on in the first negotiations. That puts a hole in my analysis. In retrospect, it really should have been for the best if Team Pac agreed to the 14 day cutoff. But I really do think it's more about the money and/or the leverage during the 2nd round of negotiations. Floyd came out looking like the bigger star right after the Mosley fight so of course they'd try to get more out of the second negotiations. Pac/Margo would need to beat the numbers Floyd/Mosley did AND he'd have to win the fight decisively just for the playing field to be even again.

    I swear, if that scenario happens and EITHER side tries to push their luck and ask for a better deal than the second negotiations, I'm done following this would-be fight. The undercard probably would've sucked anyway.
     
  14. Jack Kollin

    Jack Kollin Say my name? Full Member

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    Stop using the 7 days PEDS effect! Look at yourself!!
     
  15. Tekniqs

    Tekniqs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    if i remember correctly, him cheating on his wife made the news for quite a while in the philippines (i was living there when it was going down).

    didn't he leave the jimmy kimmel set with another girl? and i remember the night news showing him and his wife going to church but you could see there was a definite strain in their relationship