sorry calzaghe your resume is weakest ever.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by maximumsg, Jul 23, 2008.


  1. DINAMITA

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    Anyone who has bothered to watch Bernard Hopkins throughout his career knows the B-Hop of 2008 is nothing like the B-Hop of 2001-4.

    Anyone who has a human brain knows a 43-year-old man cannot fight with the same stamina, energy and workrate that a man in his mid-30s can.

    Well done Joe.
     
  2. David_TheMan

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    Doesn't change the fact that B-Hop controlled the fight for over 6 rounds, scored a knockdown, and landed the most solid blows consistently of the fight.
     
  3. ThePlugInBabies

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    you left out the most important part.....

    he lost.
     
  4. Bodysnatcher

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  6. David_TheMan

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    He lost on paper, but history will remember the fight as being a controversial decision.
     
  7. David_TheMan

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    Quit crying man, anyone with eyes saw what Lacy was, stop trying to make him more than what he was to prop up your boy Joe C.
     
  8. LiamE

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    If you really think that Ottke's reign was legitimate you really are in a minority. The guy clearly lost several times.

    Technically the real champion my arse.
     
  9. Bodysnatcher

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  10. TFFP

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    The only guy Calzaghe could and should have fought is Glen Johnson, there was no excuse there. It's hardly a resume breaker though, he's solid but not a better win than numerous others on Calzaghe's resume.

    Most of the guys breakdown is accurate. When you look at the main names, Toney was just impossible. Hopkins WAS offered a fight ages ago, and only he prevented it. How the hell you getting Ottke out of Germany, and why put yourself in a position where you must KO a defensive fighter?

    Then we have guys that were never super middles, or ever looked like fighting at super middle, which is just sheer desperation.
     
  11. ThePlugInBabies

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    where were you to enlighten everybody? there were apparently tons of people like you before the fight (of course they only spoke up after the bout) who saw through lacy, so where were you all?

    what round did you have jeff taking joe out in by the way?
     
  12. DINAMITA

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    At no point did I say 'shy away from', at no point.

    What I am saying is that he COULD have chased fights with these guys, and if he had he would surely have secured a fight with ONE out of twelve at the very least.

    He could have made a big offer to tempt Collins out of retirement

    He could have made Trinidad an offer to fight at middleweight in 2000. (Ricky Hatton chased a fight with a P4P great and had to stump up the cash and fight in a division that wasn't his normal one and go to America- he did that at the peak of his career- GUTS and AMBITION)

    He could have made Toney an offer to fight at light-heavyweight in the late 1990s, as Toney was viewed as a great fighter and a win would've boosted Cal's reputation enormously worldwide- surely something worth going for??

    I am NOT saying all 12 guys wanted to fight him and he shirked away, what I am saying is merely that those 12 were in or around the same weight at the time, he surely should have chased fights with them, and if he had he surely would have got one (or more) of them.
     
  13. DINAMITA

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    OK, of the twelve, I believe fights with these guys COULD have been made if they'd went for it:

    ROY JONES JR
    BERNARD HOPKINS
    DARIUSZ MICHALCZEWSKI
    JERMAIN TAYLOR
    KELLY PAVLIK
    ANTONIO TARVER
    GLEN JOHNSON
    WINKY WRIGHT


    The highlighted ones are the ones I am absolutely convinced he could've got. They wouldn't have priced themselves out of a fight '97-'06.
     
  14. slapsSOgood

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    in what position are you to know that he (warren) wasn't after those fights? Joe wasn't even famous until this century.
     
  15. LiamE

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    Only problem with that list of twelve is only 2 of them were SMW's that fought at the same time as Joe and one of those 2 one was a bit **** at the weight. Of the other 10 only Pavlik is a serious inclusion and Joe may well fight him.

    So does that make me a blind psychotic or does it just question your ability to evaluate that list of boxers?

    Keep hating.