sorry calzaghe your resume is weakest ever.

At the end of the day, he held the more meaningful belts, that is the fact. Yes we all know about the dodgy decisions, and question the validity of the reign. Having said that many people question Joe's Welsh home cooking. What was Manfredo all about? I'm not saying it's by any means in the league of Ottke mind; nowhere near!

Anyway, the simple fact remains that Ottke was the unified champion while Joe was clutching onto his WBO belt.

Could Joe have made himself a mandatory?

 

I have followed Joe Calzaghe and boxing in general since the early 1990s. If Frank Warren and Joe Calzaghe had truly chased fights with these guys, actually made substantial concrete offers, and been rejected, trust me, we would all know about it.

 

Clinton Woods fought 3 of them, he's hardly Mr Famous.


*Yes they were at LH

 

What difference does it make if they were fighting at the exact same weight class as him? Have you never noticed boxers jumping or dropping weight classes to make big fights happen? It happens all the time mate.

Keep on keeping on.

 

October 18th. will tell the tale.

 

Do you think it would have been worth it? He'd literally have to knock Ottke unconsious to get a win. Robin Reid knocked him down very clearly and no count was given, then Reid was warned for punching Ottke in the face.

To go to Germany and face Ottke would have been suicide for anyone, regardless of how good they are. They would simply get twisted.

 

He took them on though. Credit must be given to him for that. He would be Mr Famous if he had actually won the 3 fights- as Calzaghe maybe would have done.

 

what a plonker you are,are you serious? why don't you just go and pick any other old fighters who were around maybe down to flyweight and up to heavy and list them.i've already explained jones,toney,ottke and hopkins,not one of them ever called out calzaghe anyway.steve collins,he was retired by the time calzaghe won the wbo against eubank,do you know anything? michalczewski had already held a version of the lightheavy title and was busy avoiding or being avoided by roy jones,so you wanted a young guy who had just won the super middle title to take him on? once again i don't recall him calling out calzaghe also.glen johnson you may have a case,wright,trinidad and taylor particularily the first 2 are just too preposterous to discuss and pavlik he's probably going to fight.i'm actually no calzaghe fan but your obviously hanging from the pacmans nuts and for some reason see's calzaghe as a threat to your boys pound for pound no.1 status,why i don't know because it's obvious your man has the best resume.however the hugging syndrome is a strange thing.

 

Why, whats happening then? Has Enzo Calzaghe built a time machine and plans to launch it on that day back to 1997 and start pushing his boy into unification fights and cross-weight superstar clashes and fights in the US?

 

**** thread!!?
Ottke wouldnt get by Kessler...i mean, wow he took podwill the full distance!!?
Calzaghe beat the best put in front of him, i mean if thats the best the super-middles can offer an he's beaten them it aint his fault...
For my money he would knock out Pavlik!!?

 

f*ck this thread

 

Are you really trying to defend Ottke?

Joe wanted to fight Ottke - that is public knowledge. Its also known that he wouldnt fight him in germany and no one with any sense can blame him. There was no way Ottke would leave the bossom of his corrupt officials hence it never happened.

The fact is Joe beat several fighter that beat Ottke. That makes Ottke's belts and reign meaningless.

 

I can't believe people criticise him for not fighting Ottke, you really have to be pretty obtuse to not realise the deal there, and to give the benefit of the doubt accordingly

Ottke is a horrible little dirty cheat, but he's also clever, in and out of the ring. He knows he's nothing outside his own town, hence he always fought there. He's also very defensive and tactically astute which makes him hard to knockout, despite all the corruption he never got knocked out against good fighters and punchers. So why are you going to go there and get screwed over and risk everything?

Come on, seriously.

 

Apologies for putting this in here as I just posted it in another thread. I just found it though! I think it does display Joe's mentality about the big fights (resume makers) back then though. Having said that, to be fair, he is referring to RJJ.

"I'm not chasing after Roy Jones. Be honest, Roy Jones is a good fighter and I don't want tough fights, I just want big money."

Joe Calzaghe - The Daily Mirror - June 1 - 1999[SIZE=-1]

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I'm not trying to defend Ottke, I'm just trying not to give Joe credit for beating him when he didn't. That's not saying he wouldn't have; he clearly would have outside of Germany.