Sorry to Break Up the Pacman Love in

Agreed.

 

I agree, and rather than get slaughtered and have to prove it over 10 pages of arguement I say lets wait a little more. If Pac beats even a guy like Cotto which is his next opponent, than Im a believer. JMM has similar skills to Cotto as far as overall complete fighter, only Cotto is much stronger. Hatton proved he doesnt have the self control to fight at the elite level, he made himself look horribly amatuerish saturday night and he admitted it.

 

Wow way to twist around facts to suit your agenda. Barerra was 29 years old when Pacquiao DOMINATED him in 11 one sided rounds, Barrera was p4p top 5 in the sport in 2003 when Pac dominated a prime legend like MAB....MAB was coming off a win over undefeated Naseem Hamed and AFTER the pac loss would beat morales in a war!

If the one judge had gotten a 10-6 scorecard right, then Pacman wins by decision. Not to mention JMM is lucky as hell that fight wasnt stopped in the first round. I would also argue that JMM's prime came within the last 5 years, he was at his best when Pac fought him both times coming out 1-0-1

Chatchai Sasakul- top 15 flyweight of all time
Marco Antonio Barrera- Top 10-15 featherweight of all time
Juan Manuel Marquez- Great fighter p4p top 5

That is a very good list

Manny Pacquiao was the first man EVER to stop Morales, and Morales was still a very live dangerous top contender in the 2nd fight when Manny knocked him out.

Wrong. He is easily top 50. He has started out at 106 and recorded VERY GOOD wins from 112-140lb being champion in EVERY weight class in that range. He also has 3 wins over Prime ATG fighters, and was the first to knockout a still very dangerous great fighter morales in the 2nd fight.

 

You can do that with most fighters resumes.

Pac is a great fighter with a very good resume.

 

Why is Sasakul a top 15 Fly of all-time?.He didn't accomplish nearly enough for that and failed to comeback at all from a loss at his peak.

His only top win was a very rusty, past prime arbachakov who had ****ed up his hand in his previous fight.

 

Your full of ****, Name 50 fighters over Pacquaio. Pacman arguably already has achieved as much/more than Armstrong, hes certainly achieved more than the likes of Chavez. History will always rank him over Morales/MAB/Marquez

How many fighters won titles and beat champions across 8 weight divisions? How many flyweights stopped an ex-MW titlist and 6weight champ? How many flyweights moved up 7divisions to KO the linear no1 champion in 2rounds?

I don't think Pacquaio is the best of all time, he has technical weaknesses (as many greats do) but in terms of achievement few match him. The mans a living legend

 

Please, rate pac as high as you want but spinning him as a Flyweight is just bull****.

 

Wow, did you ever think the three Pacquiao fights might have been extremely damaging to Morales, instead of him being completely shot goods BEFORE they fought their trilogy?

Great job talking about Hoya's recent losing efforts without mentioning the fact that he was losing to ATG middleweights and Floyd Mayweather.

 

I don't think Morales was prime with his Raheem loss, but he wasn't that far from it, Delahoya just beat Mayorga and gave Mayweather a tough test, he was past prime
but that was domination.

Not everyone you face is prime, few are, it doesn't make them easy fights.

Hatton, Barrera 1, Marquez were all prime and all greats. Some greats never face a prime great themselves

 

Jimmy Wilde is not a greater fighter than Muhammad Ali, all the dam credit in the world to Jimmy, there wasn't even a weight division light enough for the man that was a freak of nature. But Ali was greater than him. Ali's resume is sparkling

 

It was only a year ago Antonio Margarito was on everyones lips but he was exposed by Mosely and may have cheated against Cotto, still the Pacman seams to be something special time will tell.