Sot Chitalada Vs Pongsaklek Wonjongkam

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  1. Flea Man

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    Prime for prime. Both long-reigning Flyweight titlists generally considered the no.1 in the division the majority of their reign. Chitalada faced some hard-punching monsters, such as Bernal, Magri, and Kittikasem, but struggled with Koreans :yep Wonjongkam is known primarily for his wins over awkward Daisuke Naito, but also had two prominent wins over younger, supposedly quicker fighters Kameda and Rungvisai when past his best.

    This would be contested at mid-range with both men looking to get off their sharp counters and establish a rhythm. But who has the upper hand?

    Chitalada, the more fluent on his feet IMO, takes a decision methinks. He faced the better opposition, and I think he hit harder as well. He smashed Ahn with a jab ferchrissakes....

    EDIT: Either man Vs Venice Bus Station was not interesting enough, as he'd box their heads off and pulverise their facial features and/or innards.
     
  2. Boxed Ears

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    Pongsaklek Wonjongkam.
     
  3. Flea Man

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  4. TBooze

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    I was lucky enough to see Sot fight Magri live. On that form, he could beat any fly ever.
     
  5. Flea Man

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    I don't know about any, but he was brilliant that night and Booze, I envy you big time right now :good
     
  6. TBooze

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    I was pretty young, but the ol' man was big time exicted about Chitalada after that fight. To the point we were going to watch the scheduled McKenzie/Sot fight, that got cancelled a few years later. I wanted to watch Nigel Benn the same night, but instead of watching Benn on his 20 odd KO run (at the Royal Albert Hall, IMO the Great venue to watch boxing in the UK), I got to watch the rescheduled main event of Horace Notice and Dean Waters...

    I bet you are not so envious now? ;)
     
  7. Flea Man

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    I agree with you Flea..on the feet and on Chitalada´s power.....

    But don´t you think Pong looks better defensively ?
    His head movement is good....Chitalada´s defense was all about reflexes....a bit more risky....

    I don´t have a vote though....close one IMO......
     
  9. Flea Man

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    Yes and his reflexes were never really good enough. He's one of a couple who seemed to be apeing Ali from Thailand (check out Sukhothai in the footage I uploaded of him Vs Zamora!) but I don't think Wonjongkam would've hurt him much and Chitalada's movement Vs Wonjongkam's functional movement add up to Wonjongkam finding it harder to get a foothold in the fight...IMO of course.

    Berkrek Chartvanchai would hold his own against these two I bet.
     
  10. Flea Man

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    Kingpetch beats Wonjongkam no doubt in my mind. His jab was better and Pong is no Ebihara in the southpaw stakes. And against some other southpaw Jap' I've got him in with (whose name shockingly escapes me at the mo') Pone is all over him, showing what he could do with a fighter not far better than him.

    I don't think Pong would cause him much hassle. He might struggle to get a rhythm against Sot, but I'm betting he could get in behind that jab and work his superior inside game, including that crafty right uppercut. Kingpetch decision Chitalada.
     
  11. lora

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    Chitalada's reflexive defence was solid enough when he was in shape and not drained, but for the latter part of his reign he became a sitting duck at times because of it(and the loss of his movement)

    I think it was McGrain that compared his late title-reign style to Lennox Lewis and he's quite right.He'd try and do the same slow leaning away and swaying slightly to either side that Lewis and Monzon would, except he lacked the ability to judge distance from a flat footed stance like Carlos and wasn't fighting guys who were mostly always shorter with less reach, like Lewis.
     
  12. Flea Man

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    And like Naz, a fighter whose reflexes weren't good enough toaccinodate his style, when hit in the middle of one of his jerky jerky pull backs it'd spin him right out of control, physically I mean.

    In the first Kittikasem fight he was getting knocked all over the shop.
     
  13. lora

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    You seen his series with Bernal?

    It's that long since i watched them i can't say for sure how i'd see it now, but i remember thinking the first two could have gone the other way.The draw was very controversial at the time.
     
  14. Flea Man

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    I have one of the fights (where Sot gets dropped) and I have highlights of another.

    He lost to the Korean fella twice IMO.
     
  15. lora

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    Yong-Kang Kim?

    Yup, another controversial series.Chitalada may have been in the most close decisions of any top 80s Fly.