Soto-Karass vs. Buendia, right now

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by IntentionalButt, Nov 15, 2007.


  1. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    Daammmnn! Nice finish by Rock. And although his best days are behind him and what not he was averaging over 80 punches per round (not bad at all for a fat ass heavy weight).
     
  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Shitty ones though. A good many of those weren't legitimate punches, like the 1288 that Jesus Soto Karass threw earlier.
     
  3. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    Aparrently you're sniffing around so maybe you tell me??:lol:

    Who said anything about not tough?? STFU:good

    Buendia desreves credit as the smaller and mismanaged guy against the over sized opponent.

    In terms of SKILLS?? Buendia's better!! Karass is just big and can endure agaisnt the NON - ELITE!!!

    Go ahead take you're pick, either ONE is getting annihaltated vs the top 4 or 5 fighters at 47:yep

    Please,,, whats up you're ass for even asking??:lol:
     
  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Calm down. It was a great fight. Nobody cares to hear you making excuses for one fighter or trying to downplay the other. Pretty much everybody agrees it was a great fight and is able to give respect to both fighters. You can't, that's your problem. Nobody really wants to hear about it.
     
  5. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    No argument from me bro that the undercard was where it was at. Karass and Buendia put on a hell of a fight and I wish both future success.
     
  6. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    STFU!!!


    Who appointed you guardian of "everyones hearing":huh

    How's bout you wait and catch drops of sweat in you're mouth as they roll off my nuts:good

    It was a great fight but regardless of who won?? They;rwe getting ****ing killed by the top 5. My problem is a guy like Buendia could have spent this time better even though he gave a very solid account as the smaller opponenht.


    :dead Quit crying puddles...fantasy man:scaredas:
     
  7. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    you don't have to measure every fighter against the rest of their division after every single fight, especially in the case of still-developing prospects.

    i just don't want this to deteriorate into yet another thread about the dynamics of a weight class and who at the elite level could beat which prospect or each other more decisively, blah blah blah. there's plenty of that crap.

    why can't we just live in the present and say tonight, there was a good fight, those of us who saw it appreciated it, and that's that? does there have to be speculative analysis to go along with that?
     
  8. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    I thought this was a pretty good fight. For an ESPN/Versus level undercard fight it was one of the better ones this year.
     
  9. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Definitely.

    This is why I'm dying to see Soto-Karass vs. Ojeda. I want to see how the guy finishes. I don't want to judge him just off the Buendia fight because I suspect there was some truth to what Wally Matthews said, in that Jesus has demonstrated highly capable boxing skills but seems to prefer to slug it out with guys like JuanMa Buendia. I think this was especially apparent as Soto-Karass waited a couple of rounds to feel the range of his opponent's power before adopting a more reckless and wide-open style for the middle rounds. There were flashes of versatility, but until I see a bit more I'll reserve judgment on just how effectively versatile he is.
     
  10. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    i'm telling ya'll,
    i seen all these cats fight here where im from years ago.....another one to look out for is GIOVANI SEGURA....him and soto karass might not bet the most technical fighters....but they make your friday nights alot better.....i'm sure one of them will be a title holder soon.....believe that
     
  11. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    link up some JSK vids? :D
     
  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    :|
     
  13. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    I was pretty impressed with what he did, even if he was "fighting the other's guy's fight." He threw an impressive amount of punches, and showed a little pop, too.
     
  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I happened to reminisce about this classic war in the course of posting this career-retrospective thread a few days ago:
    https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/jesús-el-renuente-soto-karass.618459/

    :)oops: wherein I sold the man a bit short, thinking he was a lamb being led to slaughter against Neeco Macias; instead he triumphed in a 10-round windfall of light punches both ways that saw Comp-U-Box records utterly smashed)

    ...which all led me to investigate the availability of footage of Soto Karass vs. Buendia, after reading through my and others' excitement in this de facto RBR thread watching it live. It turns out the nominal "main event" of that card, Hasim Rahman vs. Zuri Lawrence, was uploaded in entirety on YouTube, so I shot the account holder a message yesterday asking if he possessed a videotape of the whole show - and if so, would he mind uploading JSK vs. Buendia for posterity. Alas, he just responded with a message that no, he doesn't have it. :ohno

    Does anybody know if there's video to be found somewhere? Anybody have it on a VHS or DVD and want to do everyone a solid by putting it up?
     
  15. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    And somehow Tarver is still semi-active at nearly 50. :lol: