Sounds like Usyk-Dubois II is all but done...

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  1. ruffryders

    ruffryders Active Member Full Member

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    I know the reasons, but the rematches dominate his hw resume
     
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  2. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I would much rather see Parker or Kabayel. But at the end of the day, I guess he wants to 3-peat as undisputed.

    He says he wants two more...I hope he forgets this Pereira adventure and instead gives the winner of Parker-Bakole a shot.
     
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  3. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    He's miles behind Holyfield for me at HW
    Usyk has beat 3 guys that are worth their salt at Hw. Another win over Daniel means nothing. It adds nothing, he's expected to win

    Pacquiao should have rematched cotto and Floyd could have fought Hatton again,
     
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  4. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There was that interview recently where they asked him is Dubois has gotten better, and he pointedly said, "no."
     
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  5. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    He's already the champ and undisputed. Picking up another paper title again, which really belongs to him is not as great as fresh blood

    This undisputed s..t is being too hyped. It would be different if usyk retired, then came back to reclaim the belts, but everyone views him as the champion
     
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  6. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    did he understand the question?
     
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  7. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I mean, I pretty much agree.

    This echoes a discussion I was having with Lufcrazy...there is the real meat and potatoes on the record, and there is the shorthand, paper stat which takes on a life of its own. If Usyk picks the IBF strap up again, he is "three-time undisputed champion of the world." Now you are right...pull back the curtain and there is less there than if he would just make a couple of good defenses. But it's its own thing.
     
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  8. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You have a point...I believe he did. But who knows?
     
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    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Yes i am not sure if he did. His English has gotten a lot better but there are still things that will be lost in translation. Especially if the interviewer is talking relatively quickly.
     
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  10. AdamT

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    If you fans are happy enough, then it's all good

    But fighting the same 3 guys at heavy and a few cruiserweight wins is NOT putting him up with Manny, Duran, Leonard and Co. That's just my opinion

    He is just a semi retired fighter looking for low risk, high reward and im fine with it. But his fanboys need to call it like it is.

    I'm personally disappointed, but I understand it's a business and usyk Is human. You guys are his super fans, while I just admire him as a fighter.

    If you are all happy to continue calling him the Goat, then happy days.

    I'm going to leave this subject and enjoy the rest of the show mate!!
     
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  11. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well, if you remember, I never didn't call him THE G.O.A.T. I said he is uber-elite, and I don't really differentiate at that level. He's beaten the best cruisers and heavies of the last ten years, and nothing can mitigate that.
     
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  12. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    That's fine, but he's active and hasn't beat agit or parker

    Can't compare him to someone like Ali who read out the Heavyweight division in 2 separate decades

    Again if you guys have him user elite that's fine, but I'm not sure he's above Hopkins or bud. He's in that bracket with ward
     
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  13. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Entirely up to you, my friend.
     
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  14. ruffryders

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    Ward is a good comparison.
    Looks the part, cleared out, but limited depth
     
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  15. Kiwi Fish

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    I think it'd be better for his legacy to add some more names rather than three rematches on his record. A Parker and/or Kabayel win for example would give him wins over the best heavyweights from two decades in Fury and Joshua for 2010s and Parker and Dubois for the 2020s.

    Also I am biased in that I would like to see Parker get a chance a title next without having to go through another boogeyman or avoided fighter.
     
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