Sparring is NOT fighting

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by alexthegreatmc, Jan 28, 2016.


  1. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    I keep seeing threads emerge about what happened in sparring and I am a firm believer that it is mostly irrelevant what happens in a sparring match. I think it's important that people don't use rumored sparring sessions as concrete proof of anything to drive home a point. I emphasize rumored because it's already to be taken with a pinch of salt since it's sparring. We don't know whether someone was 100% or 50%, how many times they sparred, what they were focusing on, etc.

    With guys working on development and focusing on their weak points, getting knocked down is to be expected; that's more credit to their learning and not going 100% rather than their sparring partner being a monster or them being a fraud.

    It's important we understand that they're learning and most likely didn't game plan for their sparring partner like they do for an actual fight.

    This could explain why we hear about guys struggling or dominating in sparring. Hard sparring is ill-advised on a regular basis but even then, they're learning and sparring to get better. What happens in sparring, IMO, is not an indicator of how good someone is or is not, but how much they're willing to learn.

    I am not saying the rumors are false, just making sure everyone understands that in the grand scheme of things, their official matches, it doesn't hold much weight.

    That's my opinion, feel free to disagree.
     
  2. Xelloss

    Xelloss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :deal

    It's easy to forget there are occasionally sensible posts on here.
     
  3. JHDallas

    JHDallas Active Member Full Member

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    Agreed. Both sensible and clearly stated, Alex.

    I find myself nearly never commenting on posts nowadays.

    Good one.
     
  4. nickpoppunk

    nickpoppunk Unbelievable Bentekkers Full Member

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    Like It!:good
     
  5. DANGER_MAN

    DANGER_MAN Guest

    I agree sparring means not that much
     
  6. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Anyone who has been to a gym or spent time in a ring already know this sideline *****es who haven't don't.
     
  7. scarecrow

    scarecrow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So Mayweather was trying to get that ass tapped by Morales?

    Did he know at that point that the ATG level was too much for him? And had to wait till they got old not to be exposed?
     
  8. Pinkman

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    Didn't read the OP's post (too long), so I will just offer my own opinion on sparring. Sparring doesn't carry the implication that some people make it out to be for a variety of reasons.

    Guys called in to spar are almost ALWAYS going to be going at it HARDER than the fighter preparing for a fight. When you throw in a superstar's name, the sparring partner will likely want to 1) put on a show and increase his own stock and 2) go harder to see where his level is and if he can hang with an elite.

    Shawn Porter landed massive bombs on Pacquiao during sparring, so you could say that Porter has a "W" over Pacquiao in sparring. Basically, Porter was probably going in 100% while Pacquiao was operating at 60-70% and working on tweaks.

    There is no doubt in my mind that Pacquiao would clown and beat Porter with ease in an actual match.

    In their famed session, Spadafora probably gave 100% while Floyd put in about 70%. Spadafora doesn't win a round in an actual match.
     
  9. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    In an actual boxing match pbf would give Morales that work. Who gives a **** about sparring?
     
  10. scarecrow

    scarecrow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Actually at this point I think Porter knocks out Pacquiao.
     
  11. Pinkman

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    Nope. Porter wouldn't be able to find Pac.
     
  12. scarecrow

    scarecrow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Notice how Mayweather was having so much fun ringside at Morales Pacquiao II?

    He got so fired up when Pacquiao put him down.

    That's tells you a few things.

    1. Mayweather loves exciting wars more than anything too like most fans.

    2. He was happy that Morales got destroyed because he beat him up in sparring.

    3. Since Floyd was at 147 and Pacquiao at 130 he thought he would never have to worry a out Pacquiao. But Pacquiao such a boss he fought way bigger men.
     
  13. scarecrow

    scarecrow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pacquiao is much more flat footed than he was before.

    Theres a reason why Pacquiao hasn't fought the young and hungry Welters.
     
  14. Pinkman

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    Somewhat true... Pac is more flat-footed these days, but I think it's more a matter of energy preservation given his age. But Pac's defense was incredible against PED Jr.. PED Jr. was missing pretty badly at times. Porter is flat-footed and exceptionally slow. Pac doesn't have to dance around to make himself difficult to find.
     
  15. Forza

    Forza Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sparring is fighting especially when top guys spar each other. Please join your local boxing gym and ask to spar if you don't think its a fight. Two guys that go to the same gym probably won't go harder than 70%, but when guys they don't know spar each other it is pretty close to a fight.