Special Edition of ESPN2 "TNF" tonight 10pm EST: Jessie Vargas vs. Aaron Martinez

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  1. thawk888

    thawk888 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It was a joke. But your uneducated ass doesn't get it, so sad. You'll be banned soon so you can post under your real account, ******.
     
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  2. janeschicken

    janeschicken hard work! deadicayshin! Full Member

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    Wrong. Jessie Vargas is the future of boxing.
     
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  3. Phil Shad

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    Definitely will be watching.
     
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  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I remember a few years back when both he and Danny Swift Garcia were rising up the ranks of light welterweight, a lot of people were wondering which of them would make it to the top (or which would get there first).

    Vicious Victor Ortiz was in that same conversation with them, as he was still campaigning down there and hadn't quite blown up yet himself although he was a bit ahead of both. Circa the win over Arnaoutis.

    They were the 140lb Latin-American "projects" who looked like they might be special.

    Of course Puerto Ricans eager to lay their claim backed Garcia as the next big thing, and Mexicans backed Vargas (and Ortiz)...despite them all being lifelong residents of the continental USA. :yep

    Kind of crazy, the respective paths they've taken.

    Garcia is at the top.

    Ortiz has blown several chances, and is still treading water, constantly lingering near the top.

    Vargas is undefeated but very much on the outside looking in, with a long climb up.


    Actually, it's funny, Vargas lost most of his shine for having struggled once - against Lopez. Garcia was under the hot lamp for looking flat thrice in a row (Campbell, Holt and Morales) but suddenly all was forgiven when he kayoed Khan. Ortiz quit against Maidana and has been a hot-and-cold basketcase since but keeps getting the benefit of the doubt.

    I'm not sure why Jessie gets so little leeway in comparison. He's been all but written off since scraping past Lopez, who's proven himself before and since.
     
    IntentionalButt, Sep 11, 2012
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  5. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Good stuff can't wait to see it.
     
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  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Anybody seeing the Martinez upset? :think
     
    IntentionalButt, Sep 12, 2012
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  7. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Vargas finally gets the 10th stoppage of his career in this one.
     
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  8. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    You think? Aaron is a tough nut.

    Seeing an accumulation of flurries, or a 1-hitter doing it?
     
    IntentionalButt, Sep 12, 2012
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  9. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Accumulation. I don't think Vargas will worry about getting tagged and stopped so he will come out and fight aggressively like he did against Tyner leading to a ref/corner stoppage mid-late rounds.

    This is, of course, my opinion after seeing Vargas' last 8 or 10 fights to only seeing Martinez once against Brewer.
     
    PBFred, Sep 12, 2012
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  10. Boxing Fanatic

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    very good card. i applaud tr
     
    Boxing Fanatic, Sep 12, 2012
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  11. WildStyle

    WildStyle J.C. Penny's belt $2.99 banned

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    Jessie is too much of an arm puncher. And when he does, he stands straight up with it. He needs more movement.
     
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  12. Samurai's Slice

    Samurai's Slice ESB Legend Full Member

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    Saw this on front page. Did you write it IB? Nice little card.
     
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  13. Samurai's Slice

    Samurai's Slice ESB Legend Full Member

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    Nah, Martinez is a game fighter. Vargas is also pretty average. won't be a beatdown I think. :yep
     
    Samurai's Slice, Sep 12, 2012
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  14. Samurai's Slice

    Samurai's Slice ESB Legend Full Member

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    I agree with your opinions. But are we going back to the " He quit " bull**** again? Not everyone wants to fight until blood is streaming down their face and they are all busted up half dead still coming forward until they are flattened from a combo of exhaustion and being on-the-brink of death. Ortiz did fight hard in that fight and took a beating. Yet Chad Dawson was just getting out classed and said no and quit. :-(


    Try it yourself man. :yep No hate intended but I hate how someone has their jaw busted, is gushing blood or is on the flood badly dazed cut up and is always supposed to go on,.

    That said. Vargas has lost a lot of his hype he had. He almost lost to Josesito, He should have lost to Lopez. I think he's really average :conf . He's a contender, maybe bogus titleholder at best.

    Garcia, also not an A + guy. He has openings and limitations guys like Matthysse can expose. As proven in Morales and early in Khan fight. As much as i hate to say it, I think Khan could win a rematch pretty easy.
     
    Samurai's Slice, Sep 12, 2012
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  15. freddy-wak

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    aaron gonna pull the upset..even though josesito sorta already did but got robbed
     
    freddy-wak, Sep 12, 2012
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