Spence interested in Canelo @160

Not at all..lol. I don’t think you are familiar with mine either.

 

You make a great point about how Alvarez doesn't use his weight to bully his opponents, which is why comments about how much weight he walks around is so silly. And every time I hear comments about how Alvarez is so much heavier than his opponents or how he supposedly walks around above 180 lbs, it sounds like a way to act like it isn't Canelo's skills that win him fights, but it's his weight that wins him fights. To me that's insulting to Canelo's skills because like you said, it's not his weight that wins him fights but his skills / finesse. Weight classes exist so how much you weigh isn't a big factor. Given how many weight classes there are, size (height, reach) is arguably more of a factor than weight. According to boxrec, Spence is 2 cm taller than Canelo and has 4 cm reach advantage on Canelo. Spence has physical advantages vs Canelo that are greater than even what Khan had vs Canelo for example.

If you look at how well Khan was doing for 5 rounds vs Canelo, you have Spence with a better chin than Khan. So it's definitely an intriguing matchup when you think about how Spence would do at 160. This is probably going to be more of a possibility down the road, like in 2019 or in 2020. There will come a point in the next year or two where I think Spence will grow out of 147. Maybe he fights Thurman later this year, then the Crawford / Horn winner or something in early 2019 then decides he wants to move up to 154 or even to 160 to challenge Canelo. I don't think this is a fight that is going to happen any time soon, but I do think that there's a good chance that Spence and Canelo could have a super fight before they retire. Maybe in 2020 or 2021, after Spence outgrows the 147-lb division. By that point, it's a very even matchup because Spence will be naturally bigger and fully in his prime if he isn't already.

This is a fight that I think makes sense down the road, but not in 2018 and probably not next year unless Spence really want the fight for some reason. (I guess in the event that Spence fights Thurman later this year and loses a decision, maybe then without a welterweight title he may be more willing to take a risk outside the division) But for an undefeated Spence to pull a Kell Brook and move up to 160 for a one-off seems like too big of a risk when there's big fights for him at 147. But down the road, in a year or two, absolutely this could be a huge fight for both Spence and Canelo. I mean they really do matchup well in terms of size and skill. It definitely could be a massive fight as I think Canelo could stay at Middleweight for many years.

I think Spence could go the distance with Canelo, but he has to fight a smart fight. Meaning he's not going to be able to be as busy vs Canelo as he was vs Peterson. Peterson did get in some pretty big punches at times with Spence's guard down. But I think Spence will realize that he will have to step up his game if he were to take on Canelo, and in a year or two he will probably be more prepared for Canelo than he would be now. Now I think Spence would be an underdog vs Canelo with the possibility of being outclassed by Canelo, but in two years time he may be more ready to take on Canelo and fight him toe-to-toe.

To be honest, I think we'll learn a lot about Spence when he takes on Thurman. The Peterson bout doesn't tell us a lot about Spence because Lamont just stood right in front of Spence. Thurman is much quicker on his feet, and is very elusive, and if he can find ways to land on Thurman, it should tell us a lot about if he is ready for Canelo. Of course Thurman fights in a different style than Canelo, but they both are elusive in their own way. I think Thurman will be a great test for Spence and if he wins that fight possibly 1 or 2 more fights he could unify and he may be ready to move up to 154 or even 160 to fight Canelo. If I had to predict, I would say Sept 2019 or May 2020 could be Spence Canelo in Spence's first fight north of 147. Unless he wants to move up slowly and go to 154 for a few fights and build his way up to fighting Canelo and fight him when Canelo is well into his 30s.

I'm not sure where you think Alvarez's flaws have been exposed. No one's really ever gotten Canelo in any real trouble. The closest we've seen Alvarez struggle is in spurts vs Floyd and in spurts during the middle rounds vs Golovkin. I wouldn't say that's an exposure of flaws as anybody stepping in the ring vs Floyd or Golovkin is going to have some moments here or there where Floyd and Golovkin get in their offense.

I rate Spence he's definitely in my P4P Top 10 and if he beats Thurman he'll surely have earned a spot in the Top 5 P4P. I was impressed with how he dispatched of Peterson and maybe he let his guard down a little bit knowing that Peterson couldn't beat him but if he wants to fight Canelo he'll have to learn how to lower his punch output and engage in a low output chess match or he'll end up getting hit with bombs like Golovkin did. And we just don't know how Spence's chin would hold up to the kind of punches we saw Canelo land on Golovkin in September. I think Spence definitely has a style that could trouble Canelo in the sense that he does throw a lot of punches and still maintains his composure. But it only takes one punch for Canelo to change a fight esp vs a guy who's not accustomed to the weight. Canelo is the kind of a fighter with such power that can move an opponent and put an opponent off balance even if his punch is blocked. I don't know how Spence would react to being moved by an opponent's blocked punch like Canelo's punches can, and that's one thing that he won't experience vs Thurman. It's definitely a fight that I think is possible down the road but realistically I think it's a year or two away.

 

tailor made for Canelo! Canelo late stoppage or UD.

 

Spence just made Peterson quit, who beat Amir Khan, who was beating Canelo on the score cards before he got caught with a fluke punch! WAR SPENCE

 

Spence is great but don’t kid yourself, Canelo at 160 is a different beast. He would walk Spence down and out slick him in the pocket.

Not even close.

 

Of course Spence is interested in the biggest money fight out there. Boxing is all about the money.

The only top fighter out there who doesnt take the biggest money fights is Deontay. He would rather beat up 50 year olds for 1 million than take home 5 million in pay. I am guessing he has a really big ego and loves keeping his belt for as little risk as possible.

 

Total BS. Spence is the FAR superior fighter. But Canelo walks around at 190. Why would you want Spence, a guy who is easily 30 lbs. lighter than Canelo, to step in the ring with Canelo? That makes no sense. Why not wait until Spence fills out naturally. Spence can do to Canelo what Canelo has done to GGG, wait until he is well past his prime and then step up and kick his a$$. For his size, Spence is the much bigger puncher.

 

The flaws that Canelo has are based in stylistic match ups. Boxers who have similar qualities who move a lot or tend to work behind a very consistent or educated jab. Really fast guys seem to disrupt his timing and Rhythm. It takes Alvarez a little time to acclimate to speedy boxers who use a long jab and rangy punches to keep Canelo at a distance outside of his ideal punching range. Pressure fighters who are strong and have a consistent workflow gives Canelo some issues as well. Southpaw fighters may also give Alvarez a little problem? He’s an exceptional boxer and adapts extremely well because he has such an astute ring IQ.....but like all boxers, there are styles, attributes and qualities that tend to give him more problems than others.

 

Just for the record, I want to see Canelo fight someone who is actually as big as he is and go toe to toe. I want to see him get his a$$ kicked because he deserves it given the way he has all of his opponents carefully picked. I'll tell you what would be a good fight and could go either way would be Adonis-Canelo. Now that would be worth watching.

 

Charlo wants Canelo too. Do you like that as well?

 

If Spence really wants that fight with Canelo right now then he has been listening to far too much of his own hype. Forget about the size and how his style is not great for a Canelo. If he goes up to 160, his body will never make a healthy 147 again. Right now there are top p4p guys in his own division and a lot left to prove.

 

No. You'd have to say the comparison isn't as close as you think. Spence is a big welter and Alvarez is not really a true mw.

Alvarez would have a size advantage but not necessarily enough that Spence couldn't overcome it.

 

Style makes fights, Spence is more tailor made for Canelo than Brook was for GG , Spence Won't outbox the bigger Canelo and no way in hell he's stopping him

 

I'm interested in seeing him clean up 147 before anything else. I'm tired of seeing guys have to bounce to other weights to get creditable and lucrative bouts because the names in their own divisions don't want to fight.

 

Even Thurman would put up a better fight with Canelo than Spence because of his style nothing to do with"size"