Spence Jr Vs Welter weight Pac-Man

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Who wins?

  1. Pac-Man KO/TKO

    21 vote(s)
    46.7%
  2. Pac-Man points Points

    16 vote(s)
    35.6%
  3. Spence Jr KO/TKO

    4 vote(s)
    8.9%
  4. Spence Jr Points

    4 vote(s)
    8.9%
  1. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    If you grounded yourself in reality, you'd know that age and inactivity are serious concerns for a fighter — especially one who relies on his quick feet to set up his offense/defense. No emotions here, just simple facts.
     
  2. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    so what? now youre gonna pretend that none of that was taken into account? that i just coincidentally keep getting my predictions right, while you find new ways to build up pac to something he aint, then making excuses why you were wrong? you seem to think you can talk a new reality into being. it doesnt work outside your head. people know very well what your analysis is worth, and what mine is. and i will prove it to you. i will offer anyone 2 to one money odds on a bet that i can pick more winners out of any list of 10 upcoming fights than you can. bet is open to you, and anyone else that believes that story youve built up in your head. i can also tell you how thats gonna go.
     
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  3. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    He was still on the slope up when he faced Morales...came close the first time, surpassed him the second time .

    JMM was technically better than Spence, and by a good measure.

    And as you well know, that never actually happened.

    Spence is better than Timmy, about the same as Morales, and not as good as JMM.


    But none of that matters.

    As I already mentioned, Pac was way faster than Spence, and hit way harder.
    A prime Pac would have no more trouble with Spence than he did with Cotto or Margarito.
     
  4. box33

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    Reality a place they don't like visiting, Embarrassing isn't it.
     
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  5. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    so i assume youre taking the bet, and not just letting your emotions talk out the ass. easy money.
     
  6. JOKER

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    You referenced Ugas beating a 42 year old inactive Pac when you said that Spence would destroy a prime Pac.

    You've gotta be sauced again. It's the only explanation.
     
  7. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    no. the explanation is you dksab. thats why im so confident in my bet. and if you actually believed what you post, you would have jumped at the chance at the free money. i know i wouldnt have hesitated no matter who i was matched against. but then im not just pretending to know stuff im clueless about. i know whats what.
     
  8. Pimp C

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    Pac was prime against erik Morales and Morales was faded and pac lost clearly to him.

    Jmm may be more of a technician than Spence, mainly a better counter puncher but Spence is no dummy in the ring he makes adjustments and can fight in different ways. Look at how he fought Mikey garcia for example.

    Pac did lose to Bradley that really did happen and fought him 3 times.

    Spence is better and more complete than either cotto or margo. I don't know if he punches way harder than Spence he's more explosive ill give you that. Spence is heavy handed he's not a feather fist. Spence will stand up to pacs attack push him back outwork him bully him on the inside and tear his body to pieces breaking him down in the process. Pac isn't some unbeatable fighter he has many flaws and many loses. He better be glad Spence wasn't around 147 when he was still in his prime ill tell you that.
     
  9. cuchulain

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    No, that was faaaaar from the best Pac. As I already told you, he was still improving. He had no right hand to speak of the first time he fought Morales. And he lost narrowly, 7-5.
    When he added the Right Hand to his arsenal, he was much improved.

    His best was at welter weight in 2008-2010. That version destroys Spence.

    How many rounds would prime Pac have taken to stop Mikey ?
    4 ?
    5 ?

    No, that did NOT happen.
    What DID happen was that Timmy got a DECISION in their first fight. One of the judges was CJ Ross, same dame who scored Floyd-Canelo a draw. This was the worst robbery in the history of ESB.

    Of 121 ringside observers, 118 scored for Pac, 2 for Bradley and 1 for a draw.

    Some of the scores:

    Skip Bayless 119-109 Pac
    Danny Garcia. 118-110 Pac
    ESB's Rumsfield 118-110 Pac
    Ricky Hatton 116-112 Pac
    Amir Khan: 116-112
    Harold Lederman 119-109 Pac
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    Dan Rafeal 119-109
    etc.....

    Some of the comments after the fight:

    "Maybe not worse than my draw with Holyfield but still bad nonetheless."
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    "I have to go home and see the tape to see who won." -
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    "It was a ridiculous decision. Bradley lost the majority of the rounds. If it was me personally, I would admit defeat and say, 'Here's your belt back.' There was nothing there, nothing to suggest it was even close. If you were being generous, extremely generous, maybe you could give Tim four rounds and he loses 8-4. I love Tim, he is a friend of mine, but he has to know that he lost that fight."
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    If you really believe that Pac lost that fight, then boxing isn't your sport.
    But you know, as well as Andre Ward does, that Pac clearly won that fight.

    Pac had flaws and some losses, but non when he was at his best, 2008-2010.
    Spence is the best Welter on the planet right now, no offence to Bud.

    But there are levels to the game and Pac was on a whole different level.
    That version of Pac demolishes any current welter weight, including Spence and Bud.
     
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  10. JOKER

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    Doesn't matter what you say. Limp C will never give Pac any credit. It's part of his racial agenda. Idiot believes Pac was prime in the first Morales fight.

    This is a dude that said Pac didn't have a shoulder injury despite the world's most famous and reputable surgeon confirming the injury and the corrective procedure. Yet Spence who refused to show actual proof of a retina tear, is the truth.

    :facepalm:
     
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  11. cslb

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    lol “world’s most famous and reputable surgeon “. You really do have no shame.
     
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  12. Pimp C

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    I'm sorry but those are excuses pac was prime against Morales and he lost fair and square to a past it Morales.
    How many fights would Spence need against jmm to beat him clearly? How many would he need to beat Bradley? I'll tell you one each.
    Spence didn't lose a round to Mikey he dominated him. So what he didn't stop him. You're not going to stop everyone. Pac probably wouldn't stop Mikey either.
     
  13. DobyZhee

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    I’m glad the Pac Spence fight didn’t happen.

    Pac would have gotten killed.
     
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  14. JOKER

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  15. Pimp C

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    Racial agenda? Coming from a pos like you who hates on and roots again every black America fighter of note. You're a joke with no credibility.